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Duel: Ayumi Hamasaki vs. Ai Otsuka
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Who's better, Ai or Ayu?

Ai Otsuka  
68%
 
Ayumi Hamasaki  
31%
 

Total Votes : 367
TheFinalFighter
Posted: Dec 09, 2005 3:51 pm Reply with quote
桃ノ花ビラ 桃ノ花ビラ
Joined: 04 Dec 2005 Posts: 6 Location: United States of America
Ok AI fans it's time to be honest. A true duel will begin. Two of the greatest female jpop artists. Ayumi Hamasaki and Ai Otuska. Better known as Ayu and Ai. But Ayumi is considered the greatest female j-pop artists in Japan now even though AI is rising to the top of the charts. Ayumi has had a longer career with more albums and singles under her belt but it only took AI two singls with Sakuranbo (さくらんぼ, Cherry). Before you have an all out battle fans... I would like to provide you with info on Ayu and Ai before you duel and to let you know I am an AI fan and still do not know who the top female jpop artist is. So DUEL Mad !!!!

Ayumi Hamasaki:

She is the first Japanese artist to have her first original six studio albums top the charts.
Studio Albums
December 1, 1995 - NOTHING FROM NOTHING (not in avex discography) Failed to Chart
January 1, 1999 - A Song for XX - #1 over 1,450,000 copies sold
November 11, 1999 - LOVEppears - #1 over 2,560,000 copies sold
September 27, 2000 - Duty - #1 over 2,904,000 copies sold
January 1, 2002 - I am... - #1 over 2,280,000 copies sold
December 18, 2002 - RAINBOW - #1 over 1,870,000 copies sold
December 17, 2003 - Memorial address - #1 over 1,070,000 copies sold
December 15, 2004 - MY STORY - #1 over 1,130,000 copies sold
January 1, 2006 - (miss)understood

Singles
from NOTHING FROM NOTHING
21 September 1995 NOTHING FROM NOTHING - #Failed to Chart
from A SONG FOR xx
8 April 1998 poker face - #20 over 43,000 copies sold
10 June 1998 YOU - #20 over 78,000 copies sold
5 August 1998 Trust - #9 over 180,000 copies sold
7 October 1998 For My Dear... - #9 over 74,000 copies sold
9 December 1998 Depend on you - #6 over 131,000 copies sold
from LOVEppears
10 February 1999 WHATEVER - #5 over 180,000 copies sold
14 April 1999 LOVE ~Destiny~ - #1 over 650,000 copies sold
12 May 1999 TO BE - #4 over 320,000 copies sold
14 July 1999 Boys & Girls - #1 over 1,020,000 copies sold
11 August 1999 A ("monochrome"/"Trauma"/"too late"/"End roll") - #1 over 1,670,000 copies sold
10 November 1999 appears c/w immature - Limited pressing - #2 300,000 copies
8 December 1999 kanariya - Limited pressing - #1 300,000 copies
9 February 2000 Fly high - Limited pressing - #3 300,000 copies
from Duty
26 April 2000 vogue - #3 over 770,000 copies sold
17 May 2000 Far away - #2 over 570,000 copies sold
7 June 2000 SEASONS - #1 over 1,300,000 copies sold
27 September 2000 SURREAL - #1 over 570,000 copies sold ~ First edition only
1 November 2000 AUDIENCE - Limited pressing - #2 300,000 copies
from I am...
13 December 2000 M - #1 over 1,310,000 copies sold
31 January 2001 evolution - #1 over 960,000 copies sold
7 March 2001 NEVER EVER - #1 over 750,000 copies sold
16 June 2001 Endless sorrow - #1 over 760,000 copies sold
11 July 2001 UNITE! - #1 over 570,000 copies sold
27 September 2001 Dearest - #1 over 760,000 copies sold
6 March 2002 Daybreak - Limited pressing - #2 300,000 copies
from RAINBOW
24 April 2002 Free & Easy - #1 over 480,000 copies sold
24 July 2002 H ("independent"/"July 1st"/"HANABI") - #1 over 1,000,000 copies sold
26 September 2002 Voyage - #1 over 670,000 copies sold
from Memorial address
9 July 2003 & ("ourselves"/"Greatful Days"/"HANABI~episode II~") c/w "theme of a-nation '03" - #1 over 590,000 copies sold
20 August 2003 forgiveness - #1 over 220,000 copies sold
6 November 2003 No way to say - #1 370,000 copies sold
from MY STORY
31 March 2004 Moments (CD/CD+DVD) - #1 over 300,000 copies sold
28 July 2003 INSPIRE (CD/CD+DVD) - #1 over 320,000 copies sold
29 September 2003 CAROLS (CD/CD+DVD/SACD/DVD Audio) - #1 over 300,000 copies sold
from (miss) understood
20 April 2005 STEP you/is this LOVE? (CD/CD+DVD) - #1 over 345,000 copies sold
3 August 2005 fairyland c/w alterna (CD/CD+DVD) - #1 over 315,000 copies sold
14 September 2005 HEAVEN (CD/CD+DVD) - #1 over 320,000 copies sold
30 November 2005 Bold & Delicious/Pride (CD/CD+DVD) - #1 over 84,000 copies sold
Non-Regular Singles

6 December 2000 - the other side ONE ~previously unreleased version~ -
31 January 2001 - the other side TWO ~previously unreleased version~ -
31 January 2001 - the other side THREE ~previously unreleased version~ -
31 January 2001 - the other side FOUR ~previously unreleased version~ -
28 February 2001 - "poker face c/w "FRIEND" (12 cm re-release) - over 24,000 copies sold
28 February 2001 - "YOU" (12 cm re-release) - over 37,000 copies sold
28 February 2001 - "Trust" (12 cm re-release) - over 25,000 copies sold
28 February 2001 - "For my dear..." (12 cm re-release) - over 23,000 copies sold
28 February 2001 - "Depend on you" c/w "Two of us" (12 cm re-release) - over 29,000 copies sold
28 February 2001 - "WHATEVER" (12 cm re-release) - over 28,000 copies sold
28 February 2001 - "LOVE~Destiny~" c/w "LOVE~since1999~" (12 cm re-release) - over 40,000 copies sold
28 February 2001 - "TO BE" (12 cm re-release) - over 29,000 copies sold
21 November 2001 - excerpts from ayu-mi-x III CD:001 -
21 November 2001 - excerpts from ayu-mi-x III CD:002 -
21 November 2001 - excerpts from ayu-mi-x III CD:003 -
21 November 2001 - excerpts from ayu-mi-x III CD:004 -
21 November 2001 - excerpts from ayu-mi-x III CD:005 -
21 November 2001 - excerpts from ayu-mi-x III CD:006 -
12 December 2001 - "a song is born" - #1 (a duet with KEIKO (globe))
2002 - "Connected (Lightning)" (System F presents ayu) - Released in Germany only
2003 - "Connected" (Push remix)" - Released in Germany only
2004 - "Depend on you" - Released in Germany only
2004 - "Naturally" (Wippenberg remix) - Released in Germany only
2005 - "UNITE!" - Released in Germany only

Compilation Albums
28 March 2001 - A BEST - #1 4,300,000 copies sold
12 March 2003 - A BALLADS - #1 over 1,000,000 copies sold
Remix Albums



17 March 1999 - ayu-mi-x - 385,680
16 February 2000 - SUPER EUROBEAT presents ayu-ro mix - 649,650
8 March 2000 - ayu-mi-x II version US/EU - 230,030
8 March 2000 - ayu-mi-x II version Acoustic Orchestra - 200,750
8 March 2000 - ayu-mi-x II version JPN - 162,990
29 March 2000 - ayu-mi-x II version Non-Stop Mega Mix - 505,410
28 February 2001 - ayu-mi-x III Acoustic Orchestra Version - 183,760
28 February 2001 - ayu-mi-x III Non-Stop Mega Mix Version - 314,040
27 September 2001 - SUPER EUROBEAT presents ayu-ro mix 2 - 445,760
27 September 2001 - Cyber TRANCE presents ayu trance - 301,720
20 March 2002 - ayu-mi-x 4 selection Acoustic Orchestra Version - 96,160
20 March 2002 - ayu-mi-x 4 selection Non-Stop Mega Mix Version - 152,250
26 September 2002 - Cyber TRANCE presents ayu trance 2 -
25 September 2003 - ayumi hamasaki RMX WORKS from SUPER EUROBEAT presents ayu-ro mix 3 -
25 September 2003 - ayumi hamasaki RMX WORKS from ayu-mi-x 5 non stop mega mix -
25 September 2003 - ayumi hamasaki RMX WORKS from Cyber TRANCE presents ayu trance 3 -
24 March 2005 - MY STORY Classical - over 82,000 copies sold

DVD

Video Clips
A Film for XX (15 September 1999)
A clips (23 February 2000)
HAMASAKI AYUMI (29 March 2000)
vogue Far away SEASONS (20 September 2000)
SURREAL (13 December 2000)
M (7 February 2001)
evolution (13 June 2001)
A clips vol.2 (13 March 2002)
ayumi hamasaki COMPLETE CLIP BOX A (25 February 2004)
Moments (31 March 2004)
INSPIRE (28 July 2004)
CAROLS (29 September 2004)
STEP you/is this LOVE? (20 April 2005)
fairyland (3 August 2005)
HEAVEN (14 September 2005)

Short Film
月に沈む(Tsuki ni Shizumu) (Sinking in the Moon) based on "Voyage" Clip (13 November 2002)

DVDS
ayumi hamasaki concert tour 2000 A 第1幕 (27 September 2000)
ayumi hamasaki concert tour 2000 A 第2幕 (27 September 2000)
ayumi hamasaki countdown live 2000-2001 A (20 June 2001)
ayumi hamasaki DOME TOUR 2001 A (12 December 2001)
ayumi hamasaki COUNTDOWN LIVE 2001-2002 A (29 January 2003) (ONLY IN THE COMPLETE LIVE BOX)
ayumi hamasaki ARENA TOUR 2002 A (29 January 2003)
ayumi hamasaki STADIUM TOUR 2002 A (29 January 2003)
ayumi hamasaki COUNTDOWN LIVE 2002-2003 A (29 January 2003) (ONLY IN THE COMPLETE LIVE BOX)
ayumi hamasaki COMPLETE LIVE BOX A (29 January 2003)
ayumi hamasaki A museum ~30th single collection live~ (25 February 2004)
ayumi hamasaki ARENA TOUR 2003-2004 A (29 September 2004)
ayumi hamasaki COUNTDOWN Live 2004-2005 A (2 March 2005)
ayumi Hamasaki ARENA TOUR 2005 A ~MY STORY~ (24 August 2005) '

DVD Audio
RAINBOW (9 July 2003)
CAROLS (29 September 2004)
OTHERS
A VISUAL MIX (PlayStation 2 software, 13 December 2001)

Ayu has had one hell of a career Shocked

And now for the lovely Ai:

Singles
Momo no Hanabira (桃ノ花ビラ, Peach Flowerpetals) - #24 45,000 copies sold (September 10, 2003)
Sakuranbo (さくらんぼ, Cherry) - #5 520,000 copies sold (December 17, 2003)
Amaenbo (甘えんぼ, Spoiled child) - #6 106,000 copies sold (March 3, 2004)
Happy Days - #3 163,000 copies sold (July 7, 2004)
Kingyo Hanabi (金魚花火, Goldfish Fireworks) - #3 108,000 copies sold (August 18, 2004)
Daisuki da yo. (大好きだよ。, I love you.) - #3 157,000 copies sold (October 20, 2004)
Kuroge Wagyuu Joshio Tanyaki 680 Yen (黒毛和牛上塩タン焼680円, Salty Grilled Tongue of Black Japanese Beef 680 Yen) - #3 149,000 copies sold (February 9, 2005)
SMILY/Bidama (ビー玉, Marble) - #1 310,000 copies sold (May 11, 2005)
NEKO ni Fuusen (ネコに風船, Balloon for a Cat) - #3 112,000 copies sold (July 13, 2005)
PURANETARIUMU (プラネタリウム, Planetarium) - #1 over 240,000 copies sold (September 21, 2005)

Albums
LOVE PUNCH (March 31, 2004)
LOVE JAM (November 17, 2004)
LOVE COOK (December 14, 2005)

Other
LOVE for NANA ～Only 1 Tribute～ (March 16, 2005)

Photobooks
Kimi iro Omoi (キミイロオモイ) (February 25, 2005)

Theme Songs
Momo no Hanabira - Theme song for SUIKA
Planetarium - Insert song for Hana Yori Dango

DVD Drama
Tokyo Friends (June 8, 2005)

Radio Shows
Nippon Cultural Broadcasting otsuka's ai-r Jack

Live Tour
School Festival Tour (2004)
JAM PUNCH Tour 2005 ～kondoru no pantu ga kuikondoru～ (2005)
LOVE [99] COOK TOUR 2006　～masukara mainiti tukete masukara～ (2006)

Well she hasn't been in the industry as long as Ayu but still very respectable and a great artists. Well maybe you can help figure out the answer Ai fans..or just start attacking me for comparing ai or ayu...well what ever. LET THE DUEL BEGIN
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madgirlslovesong
Posted: Dec 09, 2005 4:06 pm Reply with quote
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Joined: 23 Sep 2005 Posts: 1137 Location: USA
I honestly can't find a way to compare the two. Ai hasn't been around nearly as long as Ayu and besides their styles/talents are quite different. I like them both for different reasons. They're both awesome in their own right.

With that in mind, I think I will abstain from voting and getting in the middle of what is probably going to end up becoming a huge flame war. Also, what about Hikki? Doesn't she at least deserve a nomination?
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XFER
Posted: Dec 09, 2005 5:57 pm Reply with quote
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Joined: 17 Aug 2005 Posts: 33 Location: México
Ugh, really difficult choice. I love both artists so much, but I went and gave my vote to Ayumi. However, it might depend on my mood and who I am currently obsessed about this particular day. Boogie
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Rinoa
Posted: Dec 09, 2005 6:00 pm Reply with quote
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Joined: 14 Apr 2005 Posts: 2037 Location: Europe
Honestly right now Ayu is better. She's got the title of Queen for years now and I don't see how you can compare her with Ai, who's just started. You cannot compare artists that way. It's hard to predict how artists will rise to the top and if they will eventually rise. Look at Kumi who all of a sudden has become a big favourite amongst the Japanese when in 2000 when she made her debut pretty much no one cared about her.

I agree with madgirlslovesong. Ai has been compared with Ayu for ages when they're completely different. You cannot really compare Sakuranbo with M. (Their biggest hits)

Ai is a talented artist who bases her image on being cute, sweet and has songs centred on love while Ayu has all those multiple images but eventually her music takes a philosophical twist with some random songs being simply odd. They are both excellent artists with a lot of talent but cannot really be compared.
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Ryu-Chan
Posted: Dec 09, 2005 6:49 pm Reply with quote
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Joined: 09 Jul 2005 Posts: 139 Location: Makai
Ai-chan, hands down! I personally don't like Ayu's style... Shifty *dodges rotten vegetables*
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j-ongaku
Posted: Dec 09, 2005 7:13 pm Reply with quote
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Joined: 14 Nov 2005 Posts: 162
Ryu-Chan wrote:
Ai-chan, hands down! I personally don't like Ayu's style... Shifty *dodges rotten vegetables*

I'd shall dodge also. Ive listened to alot of Ayus songs and never really liked them. Ai is so much better. Now a choice between Ai and Eri Nobuchika would be tough for me.
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Rokit
Posted: Dec 09, 2005 8:12 pm Reply with quote
大好きだよ。 大好きだよ。
Joined: 08 Oct 2005 Posts: 217 Location: California
I choose Ai Otsuka. I dun really like Ayumi too much, especially her latest single out... Shifty

Is it true that Avex are trying to kick Ayu out so Ai can replace her? I heard that from a friend who seems to have more knowledge then i do of both the artist.
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ccb
Posted: Dec 09, 2005 8:56 pm Reply with quote
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Joined: 02 Nov 2005 Posts: 163
i vote for ai otsuka. i love ayu old songs such as evolution, moments,fly high ETC but i dislike those current songs. its not kinda my cup of tea anymore. ai otsuka songs is more lively and shes cute, so i vote her. btw topic starter, u really cannot compare ayu with ai-cha. ayu single usually sell 1million copy but ai-chan latest single( planetarium) din`t sell 1million copy. so theres a huge gap between them. (ayu fan boy please dun flame me)
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Kworb
Posted: Dec 10, 2005 12:14 am Reply with quote
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Joined: 19 Aug 2005 Posts: 18
I gotta vote for Ayumi. Though right now Ai is better (Planetarium and Cherish are way better than Bold & Delicious and Pride) Smile

But Ayumi's best song (Moments) is better than all of Ai's songs Boogie
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Evil_tomba
Posted: Dec 10, 2005 12:20 am Reply with quote
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Joined: 18 May 2005 Posts: 357 Location: Toronto, Canada
i voted for ayu because she is like my fav artist rite now
ai really doesn't have the creditials to be pitted against ayu their styles are so different
i agree with madgirlslovesong that hikki should be included in this, although all 3 of their styles are sooooooo completely different
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kikubelle
Posted: Dec 10, 2005 12:35 am Reply with quote
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Joined: 27 Jul 2005 Posts: 1026 Location: Toronto, Canada + Lalaland~
I vote Ai chin
b/c i was never really fond of ayu until bold and delicious
i think my judgement is kinda biased
since i have heard most of Ai's stuff n less of ayu stuff
however my friends have exposed me to some of ayu's songs
and i dunt realli like it so yeah...
i love ai chin
when im lik 20 something i want to be just as cute and dangerous like her
She is so so so kawaii!!!!
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Aprilis.
Posted: Dec 10, 2005 12:53 am Reply with quote
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Joined: 26 Aug 2005 Posts: 931 Location: Japan
madgirlslovesong wrote:
I honestly can't find a way to compare the two. Ai hasn't been around nearly as long as Ayu and besides their styles/talents are quite different... They're both awesome in their own right...

Also, what about Hikki? Doesn't she at least deserve a nomination?

the most common debate i've seen is "ayu vs. ai vs. hikki" why is that? i get the whole duel about britney and christina, but these three? the only common i find between these 3 artists is that they're all female (hahaha), talented, and enjoy producing great music.

Rinoa wrote:
Honestly right now Ayu is better. She's got the title of Queen for years now and I don't see how you can compare her with Ai, who's just started. You cannot compare artists that way. It's hard to predict how artists will rise to the top and if they will eventually rise. Look at Kumi who all of a sudden has become a big favourite amongst the Japanese when in 2000 when she made her debut pretty much no one cared about her...

Ai is a talented artist who bases her image on being cute, sweet and has songs centred on love while Ayu has all those multiple images but eventually her music takes a philosophical twist with some random songs being simply odd. They are both excellent artists with a lot of talent but cannot really be compared.
currently i'm a big ai fan (ai > ayu + hikki) but ayu have left a mark that no artist (even ai) can ever replace, i admire her and to me she's a legend, one of a kind. it's not only ayu's music and talent, but everything that made her ayu that made me a fan in the first place. she's managed to do something that few artists had achieved. although i'm not a big big fan now, i still have to say that she's, if not the best, one of the best artist in music industry.
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madgirlslovesong
Posted: Dec 10, 2005 1:26 am Reply with quote
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Joined: 23 Sep 2005 Posts: 1137 Location: USA
Aprilis. wrote:
the most common debate i've seen is "ayu vs. ai vs. hikki" why is that? i get the whole duel about britney and christina, but these three? the only common i find between these 3 artists is that they're all female (hahaha), talented, and enjoy producing great music.
For me asking about Hikki, I think it was partially reflex. It really is such a common debate. Giggle

Honestly though, these are three of the most promoted & most popular artists right now. Hikki and Ayu have both been around for quite some time, so they've earned major fanbases. Their styles are remarkably different, yet they're competing in the same market, so they're always going to be compared. (Especially by fans who like one and dislike the other.)

As for the reason that Ai is suddenly being thrown into these competitions, well, she's had remarkble success in the short amount of time that she's been in the industry. Also I think another major reason is because she's on the same label as Ayu and Avex has been doing quite a bit to market her. A lot of people feel like they're prepping her to be "Ayu's replacement." (Not my opinion, but I've heard it many times.)

At least this is my take on the whole thing.
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kaorumorite
Posted: Dec 10, 2005 2:03 am Reply with quote
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You will all hate me.. But I think I hate Ayumi more then any other Japanese artist (even Miyabi, Who i cant stand)... So i voted for Ai.. Cause she is deffinately one of the best artists out there!
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CETMA
Posted: Dec 10, 2005 2:16 am Reply with quote
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haha, i don't like ayumi or miyabi either. Miyabi is so stupid.... but he's kinda funny. Cuz he's so stupid.

But personally if they fought like in a duel i guess ai would draw her bunnys and kill ayumi....with love Love Wink Love
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