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Planetarium Plagiarism :(

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Do you think Planetarium is plagiarized from Suteki da ne?

Yes, definitely  
I have to admit they sound similar  
Not really, Planetarium sounds way better  
Are you kidding? No way!  
I don't care if she plagiarized because I'm a fanboy/girl  

Total Votes : 67
Posted: Jan 31, 2006 11:38 pm Reply with quote
Joined: 26 Jun 2005 Posts: 497 Location: New York
^ I SERIOUSLY doubt ayu plagiarized HYDE. I also SERIOUSLY doubt ai plagiarized all these artists. I mean ALL THOSE ARTISTS. There is no way she will be able to keep it up with everyone that she's supposedly stealing from. And these are some big name acts, too. Mr.Children, Chara, L'Arc~en~Ciel, THE YELLOW MONKEY, aiko...seriously. They've sold more records than Ai, I'm sure that anyone would pick any plagiarism out.

People are reading too much into this. No every melody crafted is 100% original, it's just not possible. Besides, many of these melodies are pretty simple, so similarities with those from other songs are gonna happen. There are only so many possible notes in the world that can be formed into a decent melody. Sure, that's thousands of melodies, but there are more than thousands of songs.

Eh, whatever. I do love "JAM" bye YEMON (and don't see major similarities between that and "kuroge wagyuu joushio TANyaki 680-en"), and sorry, but "forbidden lover" owns "Strawberry Jam". And "evergreen" and "HEAVEN" are in two different categories of ballads, so yeah.

That's all. whatever. Sneeze
Posted: Feb 01, 2006 1:32 am Reply with quote
Joined: 10 Oct 2005 Posts: 1975 Location: Melbourne, Australia
ismannen wrote:
I havent really followed this discussion, but I got this following link from a friend:

I finally got the chance to go through ALL the comparisons. When I heard 'their' version of PLANETARIUM, they sped it up in attempt to make it sound like Mr. Children's song.

Now I realise this person is just out to get Otsuka Ai. No
Posted: Feb 01, 2006 1:47 am Reply with quote
ネコに風船 ネコに風船
Joined: 06 Nov 2005 Posts: 504 Location: Singapore
HilaryDuffFanboy wrote:
Now I realise this person is just out to get Otsuka Ai. No

i agree with you
i have to amit they sounds the same
but i think otsuka ai's Planetarium sounds better Giggle

comment by eyn: You said they sound the same, then you said Planetarium is better, that's contradictory. No

oops sorry i type an extra line Embarassed so sorry i will be carefull nextime Embarassed

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Posted: Feb 01, 2006 6:58 am Reply with quote
上塩タン焼680円 上塩タン焼680円
Joined: 25 Aug 2005 Posts: 362 Location: sg
i voted for 'Are you kidding? No way!', simply because i really thought so.
Firstly, if u just compare the lyrics, it's just the phrase 'ikitai yo' that is the same. oh come on...many songs also have the similar phrases. are u going to accuse a singer plagiarising another singer's song just because the song has a same phrase e.g.'i love u'? that's kinda dumb.
Secondly, the instruments used for Suteki Da Ne and Planetarium is not really the same. Suteki Da Ne has more of string-instruments sounds like violin while Planetarium has more of both piano and flute sound. i dont pretend to be a musician or a music expert but this is what my ears tell me. a number of u guys say that Suteki Da Ne and Planetarium sound the same or similar, but which part?? Confused
Thirdly, regarding both the PV, it's just that few scenes of Planetarium that look like Suteki Da Ne. they add up to only a few seconds, compared to the 5+ mins of both PVs. in the Suteki Da Ne PV, there are some scenes of Rikki singing in a forest. r u guys also going to accuse Ai-san of plagiarising because in her Momo No Hanabira PV, she's also singing in a forest? that's just bullshit, dont u agree? Laughing
Posted: Feb 11, 2006 4:43 pm Reply with quote
桃ノ花ビラ 桃ノ花ビラ
Joined: 29 Jan 2006 Posts: 8
it's coincidence. Heck, sure I thought that the vid does parralels Suteki Da Ne vid but still the song as whole is a different package altogether with a different feel.

BTW, I am a fan of both Suteki Da ne and planetarium. To me similarities of a few bars is nothing compared to singers who do covers of other ppl's songs but dare to pass it off as their own.
Posted: Feb 11, 2006 11:22 pm Reply with quote
上塩タン焼680円 上塩タン焼680円
Joined: 23 Apr 2005 Posts: 327 Location: Canada
wow i'm a fan of FFx and i love the song suteki da ne but they are similar but there also different! there both great songs so i guess it doesn't realli matter.. its probably just coincidence that the pvs are alike
Posted: Feb 11, 2006 11:35 pm Reply with quote
桃ノ花ビラ 桃ノ花ビラ
Joined: 12 Dec 2005 Posts: 21 Location: Australia
Its kind of like.."hey that singers video also has the sky, and a red flower in it..oh dear! plagiarism!"
It doesn't really matter, its probally a coincidence.
Posted: Feb 18, 2006 9:51 pm Reply with quote
ユメクイ ユメクイ
Joined: 27 Jul 2005 Posts: 1026 Location: Toronto, Canada + Lalaland~
First of all, plagerism is plagerism...
everyone plagerizes honestly...its just a matter of how it is said...
when i was little, my sister always copied me...n i hated it...
but my mom said to me...Good things/ideas are meant to be shared...
however there should be a limited degree to how much one copies...
this is probably not a coincidence but I believe that Ai Chin probably felt a little guilty when she did it and probably that will prompt her not to do it again! Confused
Posted: Feb 18, 2006 10:38 pm Reply with quote
Joined: 10 Oct 2005 Posts: 1975 Location: Melbourne, Australia
Star wrote:
Its kind of like.."hey that singers video also has the sky, and a red flower in it..oh dear! plagiarism!"
It doesn't really matter, its probally a coincidence.

Exactly. Just because a certain something has some particular element, does it mean you aren't allowed to use it elsewhere?

Absolutely no one would plagiarise that much. If people truly understand Otsuka Ai, they'd know she'd never go to such a crazy extent.
Posted: Feb 18, 2006 11:31 pm Reply with quote
さくらんぼ さくらんぼ
Joined: 15 Jul 2005 Posts: 45 Location: Greenville, SC
Such a grey, awkward line between plaigiarizing and inspiration.
Posted: Feb 19, 2006 12:07 am Reply with quote
羽ありたまご 羽ありたまご
Joined: 13 Apr 2005 Posts: 2094 Location: Canada
If you ask me what's the difference between plagiarism and inspiration, I would say plagiarized work are always inferior compared to the original version because it has no soul itself. Inspired work, on the other hand, can be 10 times better than the original version even though they might share some similar traits. Wink

Still, we do not know if Ai-chin is inspired by any of those works she was accused of plagiarizing. She might have composed them all by herself without being inspired by any of these works and the similarities might be just coincidence.
Posted: Feb 19, 2006 1:24 am Reply with quote
桃ノ花ビラ 桃ノ花ビラ
Joined: 14 Sep 2005 Posts: 16 Location: Philippines
Wow! I thought I was the only person that realized that... They do sound alike but I'm sure no one tried to rip anybody's song...

Thanks for posting the link though.
Posted: Feb 19, 2006 8:51 am Reply with quote
Happy Days Happy Days
Joined: 09 Sep 2005 Posts: 119
i guess it's juz coincidence tat the pv n the song r similar.. it's like those flowers n stars thingy r typical of a planetarium wat... there's bound to b aomething not original in a production wat..
Posted: Feb 20, 2006 3:07 am Reply with quote
桃ノ花ビラ 桃ノ花ビラ
Joined: 03 Dec 2005 Posts: 20
wow thats very interesting
but yah its still just a pv
but now when i hear planetarium i'm going to keep thinking about sutekidane =__________='''
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Posted: Feb 20, 2006 4:45 am Reply with quote
桃ノ花ビラ 桃ノ花ビラ
Joined: 02 Jan 2006 Posts: 15
You guys just reminded me, the ikitaiyo part sounds exactly the same. No wonder it sounded like I heard it elsewhere.

Bear in mind I do like Ai, so please don't take offence, but I think Ai tends to lift. She does so much composing that maybe every now and then she has to rely on inspiration from others... And to those who claim it's the company's decision on what the PV ought to look like, I guess you're not the ones who are constantly praising Ai about how talented and creative she is.
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