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Do you think Planetarium is plagiarized from Suteki da ne?
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| I have to admit they sound similar |
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| Not really, Planetarium sounds way better |
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| Are you kidding? No way! |
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| I don't care if she plagiarized because I'm a fanboy/girl |
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| HilaryDuffFanboy |
 Posted: Feb 20, 2006 5:05 am |
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CHU-LIP
Joined: 10 Oct 2005
Posts: 1747
Location: Melbourne, Australia
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Hm... I think when fans praise her for her talent and creativity, it is about her musical talents and creativity, nothing to do with her and her PV's.
I don't think Otsuka Ai has much say in what her PV's as of yet. |
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| nimbusb0i |
| Posted: Feb 20, 2006 11:19 am |
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桃ノ花ビラ
Joined: 26 Nov 2005
Posts: 20
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whoa its about the same oh wells doesnt really bother me could have been pure coincidence or really plagiarized  |
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| HachiRoku |
| Posted: Feb 20, 2006 8:10 pm |
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Happy Days
Joined: 08 Jul 2005
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| i thought that they would be alike. because i remember a scene like that before after i watched the video. |
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| Candy Rain |
| Posted: Feb 21, 2006 7:05 am |
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桃ノ花ビラ
Joined: 02 Jan 2006
Posts: 15
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I dunno, a lot of people also praise her for having creative and original PVs. I won't say for sure that she does do her PVs herself, since I'm not present in her workplace or company, but I don't think we can so easily conclude as well that she doesn't have a say in her PVs.
P.S.: If she doesn't do them herself I'll be very disappointed, SMILY was brilliant.. |
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| Gin-Gen |
| Posted: Feb 21, 2006 1:00 pm |
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さくらんぼ
Joined: 08 Dec 2005
Posts: 49
Location: California
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| I don't hear any similarity at all when I listen to the songs...the pictures do look a bit alike..but I think Ai-Chan's innocent... |
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| DeRusto |
| Posted: Feb 22, 2006 8:43 pm |
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桃ノ花ビラ
Joined: 26 Jul 2005
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Well, I have to say these two songs do sound remotely similar.. but I think that flash page someone linked above is pretty ridiculous. Sure there are a few songs on there that are pretty questionable.. like Sakuranbo.. its apparently the same exact song as the Himawari song, and SMILY which is pretty similar to the wyse song. However, most of those songs have very little or nothing at all in common with the supposedly plagiariased song! At least, that's what I think.
So I voted (or will vote ><) "Are you kidding?!?!"  |
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| mystique |
| Posted: Feb 22, 2006 10:24 pm |
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金魚花火
Joined: 17 Feb 2006
Posts: 152
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| I don't believe this. Maybe the PV is a rip-off for a few milliseconds, but Planetarium is such an original and pretty ballad. And it's not fair to compare Ai songs to each other - they come from the same artist, so obviously they'll have similarities in terms of arrangements and composition. |
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| HilaryDuffFanboy |
| Posted: Feb 23, 2006 6:23 am |
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CHU-LIP
Joined: 10 Oct 2005
Posts: 1747
Location: Melbourne, Australia
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DeRusto wrote: Sure there are a few songs on there that are pretty questionable.. like Sakuranbo.. its apparently the same exact song as the Himawari song,
It is, because Otsuka Ai was part of Himawari a few years back, but they had no success at all, and disbanded after one or two indies single. Otsuka Ai's partner was offered another job, and Otsuka Ai pursued a solo career. She probably got Ikoman to remix Sakuranbo, and then released it herself. |
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| DeRusto |
| Posted: Feb 25, 2006 12:29 pm |
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桃ノ花ビラ
Joined: 26 Jul 2005
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HilaryDuffFanboy wrote: It is, because Otsuka Ai was part of Himawari a few years back, but they had no success at all, and disbanded after one or two indies single. Otsuka Ai's partner was offered another job, and Otsuka Ai pursued a solo career. She probably got Ikoman to remix Sakuranbo, and then released it herself.
LOL, well that explains that one |
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| PockyRed |
| Posted: Feb 25, 2006 2:26 pm |
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さくらんぼ
Joined: 02 Feb 2006
Posts: 47
Location: Peppermint Forest.
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I wanted to read all of the posts before saying my own opinion, but then I saw there were almost 6 pages..  So, I'm sorry if it sounds like I'm repeating what someone else has already said!
I think that in the music industry, you will find a lot of PV's that look alike. Even internationally! For example, if you compare some of Kwon Boa's PVs to Britney Spears (you can find a lot of these comparisons in forums like Boajjang.net) you'll see more than one share the same concept. And some came years before others, while other nearly released at the same time!
The important thing is to think of how the song relates to the PV and to listen to the originality of the lyrics and music. That's what makes each PV so unique - not how they compare to other artists' PVs. Does that make sense? I hope so, heh heh. |
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| xiaolingkia |
| Posted: Jan 24, 2007 10:02 am |
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上塩タン焼680円
Joined: 25 Nov 2005
Posts: 304
Location: behind you!
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| yes i agree that the ikitai yo is kinda similiar, just that suteki da ne is slower. there was also this source that said that planetarium sounded like one of Mr. Children aka Misuchiru's songs as well.=( but come on! there're so many songs in this world so we cant expect every single song to be unique, right?=) |
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| Impracticable |
| Posted: Jan 24, 2007 3:40 pm |
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さくらんぼ
Joined: 16 Jan 2007
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| Well, A part in 'SMILY' sounds JUST like the beginnig to the Ayumi song 'independance' But anyway its not like avex has to get permission from avex to do that. XD |
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| cnix |
| Posted: Jan 27, 2007 8:28 pm |
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金魚花火
Joined: 29 Oct 2006
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| suteki da ne from FFX! definetly not affliated with planetarium >_> |
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| .::carlito::. |
| Posted: Jan 27, 2007 11:48 pm |
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PEACH
Joined: 14 Oct 2006
Posts: 2209
Location: Melbourne, Australia
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| I can say they are definitely not affiliated. But they do sound similar. I do love both songs though cos I am both a great FFX and Ai-chin fan. I do believe FFX was made 4 years before Ai's Planetarium came out. But I'm not sure if that makes a point or not really. But they definitely do not make a connection. No way. |
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| aichinfan |
| Posted: Jan 28, 2007 2:34 am |
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桃ノ花ビラ
Joined: 29 Jul 2006
Posts: 4
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about the PV, I agree with eyn .
but about the melody... you know, good composers, when composing a new melody, tries to fit the right "keynote" that channels one part with another.
what do I mean? When Ai Otsuka was composing Planetarium, she probably made the melody before and after the "ikitai yo" part. So, there's a "blank note/missing note", and she needs it to channel those melodies of before and after the "ikitai yo" part.
So, think about it. There isn't much choice to choose a note to fit this missing part (the "ikitai yo" part), because if Otsuka had chosen a different note in that part, it would probably ruin the melody.. So she didn't have much choice but to put that "keynote" of "ikitai yo" melody part, so that it sounded nicely.
sorry if it got a little complicated |
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