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[Gossip] Tension between Ai and Kumi?

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aifan929
Posted: May 19, 2006 10:08 pm Reply with quote
甘えんぼ 甘えんぼ
Joined: 09 Apr 2006 Posts: 77
I'm not sure if I'm allowed to post gossip news in here, since it's not really "real" news. But I was laughing at this when I read it. It's in chinese:

Quote:
大塚愛倖田來未擘面
日本 avex 唱片公司旗下兩位阿姐大塚愛與倖田來未,近日傳出不和!原因是大塚愛擔心人氣不斷上升的倖田影響其地位,兩人關係勢成水火,鬥到出面!最近音樂節目《CDTV》向男觀眾進行「最佳女朋友」調查,結果大塚愛打抵倖田和鈴木亞美奪得第一位,總算爭回一口氣!

另外,前日大塚愛出席新片《東京Friends》製作發表會,演出一名前往東京追求夢想的少女,有機會與瑛太拍接吻戲,不過她連日來都要清早5時半起床,搞到睡眠不足!

link: http://hk.news.yahoo.com/060519/197/1o021.html

Basically, what the 1st paragraph says is that avex's 2 rising princesses, arn't getting along. It says that Ai is worried that her popularity isn't as good as where Kumi is right now, and this is the cause of the friction/tension. But she got back at Kumi in the recent CDTV episode where male viewers voted on the "Best Girlfriend", Ai claimed #1 beating out Kumi and Suzuki Ami.

In the 2nd paragraph, it talks about her Tokyo Friends Movie and how there is a possiblity that there will be a kissing scene with one of the male characters. But, for the past few days, she has been waking up at 5:30am, causing her less sleep time!

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There maybe some errors in my translating, so if I did make any, please tell me. This is kinda dumb, but the kissing scene might be true though! And I hope she gets more sleep!
 
HilaryDuffFanboy
Posted: May 20, 2006 3:25 am Reply with quote
PEACH PEACH
Joined: 10 Oct 2005 Posts: 1975 Location: Melbourne, Australia
....... You know it's totally fake when it's from HK gossip news!! You should have read some of the things they have written about Ayumi Hamasaki!! Shocked HK's paparazzi will go to any lengths to publish articles.

So yeh, I'm totally not buying this.... Otsuka Ai just doesn't seem the type to get jealous of such things....

But then again, even though Otsuka Ai isn't jealous of Koda Kumi, I think most people in her position would appreciate a higher degree of popularity anyway.. Tongue

This also reminds me of HEY!x3 500th ep special, and when Otsuka Ai and Koda Kumi were sitting next to each other, it seemed Otsuka Ai was trying to ignore Koda Kumi and avoided eye contact with her. =X

But anyway, I still don't think Otsuka Ai is jealous. For comparison, after 2.5 years into the entertainment industry, Koda Kumi was nowhere near as popular as Otsuka Ai....
 
aifan929
Posted: May 20, 2006 6:56 am Reply with quote
甘えんぼ 甘えんぼ
Joined: 09 Apr 2006 Posts: 77
HilaryDuffFanboy wrote:
....... You know it's totally fake when it's from HK gossip news!! You should have read some of the things they have written about Ayumi Hamasaki!! Shocked HK's paparazzi will go to any lengths to publish articles.

Well, HK newspapers get their sources from Japan. If they find the rumour juicy enough then they'll translate it into Chinese and publish it.
 
HilaryDuffFanboy
Posted: May 20, 2006 8:29 am Reply with quote
PEACH PEACH
Joined: 10 Oct 2005 Posts: 1975 Location: Melbourne, Australia
I'll have to disagree with that. >_< Some of the things they have speculated about Ayumi hadn't been heard of in Japan.
 
eyn
Posted: May 20, 2006 1:10 pm Reply with quote
羽ありたまご 羽ありたまご
Joined: 13 Apr 2005 Posts: 2094 Location: Canada
I don't really think Ai-chin is jealous of Koda Kumi and it should really be the other way around, if there really is any jealousy going between these 2 singers. Nod Koda Kumi is only a singer while Ai-chin is more of a musician that are in charge of the music she produced, so there really is no reason for Ai-chin to feel jealous of Koda who sells her music using her body and controversial lyrics. No

Yes, we all know Koda Kumi is extremely popular right now but it's just a bubble that's going to burst soon (I believe). Ai-chin on the other hand has a more stable career and is slowly gaining her momentum, which is definitely the better way to become a successful artist that will stay popular for a very long time to come. Also, comparing how long each of them has been in the industry, Ai-chin's achievement is phenomenal, how can she feel jealous after being so successful with her career. Wink

I agree with HilaryDuffFanboy about the Heyx3 special which Ai-chin and Koda Kumi is sitting together during the talk part. There's no eye contact between her and Koda Kumi at all, and Ai-chin do seem to avoid it, which makes this jealousy theory kinda make sense in a way? Here's a screenshot of the talk part:



fyi, Kumi on the other hand doesn't really try to avoid looking at Ai-chin. I'm just thinking they are probably strangers despite the fact that they are both under the same company. Confused Ai-chin didn't look at Kumi too when she leave her seat to perform "Frienger".

Actually if you think a little bit more, the host is on Ai-chin right hand side while Kumi is on her left hand side. There's really no reason for her to turn to her left hand side to "look" at Kumi unless they are friends and not strangers. So the conclusion is, they don't know each other that well. Nod

Lastly, Hong Kong rumour can go pretty far-fetched sometimes but it's still interesting to read about them, since usually they do base their theory on some events that did happen.
 
Rinoa
Posted: May 20, 2006 1:25 pm Reply with quote
クムリウタ クムリウタ
Joined: 14 Apr 2005 Posts: 2039 Location: Europe
Personally I doubt this is true. Gossip about Ayu and Ai/Kumi has also been thrown in a while ago but I've never seen any proof of their rivalry between them.
 
and_etude
Posted: May 20, 2006 2:04 pm Reply with quote
上塩タン焼680円 上塩タン焼680円
Joined: 24 Nov 2005 Posts: 287
To be honest, I doubt it's true. But even if it is true, I wouldn't be surprised. Why? Ai's human, humans are prone to emotions such as jealousy. AI's no exception, maybe she just doesn't show it, but jealousy are part of one's life, no matter how we dislike it. I mean, if I in her position, I would be jealous. Confused

But who's Ku's producer? I mean, if they share a producer, it would be a little odd for them not to know each other...but like I said, everyone faced jealousy once in their life, and Ai's no exception. She might chose not to show it. *shrug*
 
Rinoa
Posted: May 20, 2006 4:12 pm Reply with quote
クムリウタ クムリウタ
Joined: 14 Apr 2005 Posts: 2039 Location: Europe
No I think they have different producers.. Ku's producer is Max Matsuura. The same guy who found Ayu.
 
aifan929
Posted: May 20, 2006 4:27 pm Reply with quote
甘えんぼ 甘えんぼ
Joined: 09 Apr 2006 Posts: 77
I agree with eyn about them not really knowing each other. Keep in mind, Kumi is under Rhythm Zone and Ai is under the avex main label. But I'm pretty sure the "executive producer" for all the avex/RZ artists is max matsuura.

HilaryDuffFanboy wrote:
I'll have to disagree with that. >_< Some of the things they have speculated about Ayumi hadn't been heard of in Japan.

Many of the HK reports get their sources from BBS sites, not-so-big gossip magazines, and sometimes the big gossip magazines like Friday. It really depends on the rumour. For this one, I guess they could have just made it up after watching the Heyx3. But for stuff like dating so-and-so, I think they get it from Japanese sources.

eyn wrote:
I don't really think Ai-chin is jealous of Koda Kumi and it should really be the other way around, if there really is any jealousy going between these 2 singers. Nod Koda Kumi is only a singer while Ai-chin is more of a musician that are in charge of the music she produced, so there really is no reason for Ai-chin to feel jealous of Koda who sells her music using her body and controversial lyrics. No

I agree that Ai is more of a musician than Kumi, but Kumi does write some of her music, so she isn't just a singer, she does contribute some parts towards her work (ie: being producer for her ~first things~ tour and writing lyrics)

Also, I don't think she is just using her body to sell. Her body may be one of the reasons, but I don't think it's the entire/most of the reason. Besides, most of her fans are girls. I also think that some Japanese do see some talent in her, that's one of the reasons why she is able to sell more than a million twice.
 
and_etude
Posted: May 20, 2006 8:01 pm Reply with quote
上塩タン焼680円 上塩タン焼680円
Joined: 24 Nov 2005 Posts: 287
Rinoa wrote:
No I think they have different producers.. Ku's producer is Max Matsuura. The same guy who found Ayu.

I thought Ai's producer is also Max Matsuura?
 
kazfz
Posted: May 21, 2006 11:11 am Reply with quote
フレンジャー フレンジャー
Joined: 24 Apr 2006 Posts: 854 Location: in my own world ^_^
Maybe me and my sis are weird but we just feel that Ai reaction was kinda weird [ as in nervous ], she kept rubbing her hands on her legs ?

Another is Ai might get irritated since its suppose to be her conversation with the host and not koda kumi ? but somehow i guess dont feel that Ai is trying to avoid Koda kumi + some musician are weird ppl [ well actually most of them ]

I love both of them so yep.... i dont know LOL.... i dont really like when ppl say that Kuu chan only uses body to sell since i heard her songs and love it before i get to see her + im a female !!! dont really know much guys that like her..... [ Kuu cant be dressing like Ai, it'll be joke of the year ! ]

arh my long theory ^_^ ......
- THE END -
 
and_etude
Posted: May 21, 2006 12:14 pm Reply with quote
上塩タン焼680円 上塩タン焼680円
Joined: 24 Nov 2005 Posts: 287
And also note that 70% of Koda's fans are female, while 60% of Ai fans are male...so I guess Koda's sexual appearance can't affect THAT much of her sales...
 
kazfz
Posted: May 21, 2006 12:25 pm Reply with quote
フレンジャー フレンジャー
Joined: 24 Apr 2006 Posts: 854 Location: in my own world ^_^
LOL 60% are guys ?.... dont really think its that much tho... i like Koda kumi sexual song or rather call it HOT ?

theres very lil female on this forum i guess, kinda weird i only like female singers from Japan and male singers from korea ?..... the guys in Japan just dont stand out ?.... [ ok off topic ]
 
orange_ka
Posted: May 21, 2006 1:30 pm Reply with quote
ユメクイ ユメクイ
Joined: 01 Jul 2005 Posts: 1117 Location: *mentally in: yamapi/keita's world*
and_etude wrote:
And also note that 70% of Koda's fans are female, while 60% of Ai fans are male...so I guess Koda's sexual appearance can't affect THAT much of her sales...

wow, thats interesting~ I always thought it was the other way around...haha, I guess Kumi's "appearance" actually capture more girls? That is way too interesting. Laughing

While ai-chan have 60% male fans...I guess Japan guys these days prefer "cute" girls instead of "sexy" ones? Tongue
 
eyn
Posted: May 21, 2006 2:36 pm Reply with quote
羽ありたまご 羽ありたまご
Joined: 13 Apr 2005 Posts: 2094 Location: Canada
Regarding Koda Kumi, she's known as the "ero" song princess (エロ歌姫) by the Japanese if you know what that means. That certainly tells you a lot about how people see her as a singer, and I agree she does have the talent and everything but you can't deny she used her sex appeal to stand out in the J-Pop crowd.

The fans percentage doesn't really tell much I think. Japan is very open-minded about this issue and probably female fans take her as a role model for being able to "express" herself. Who knows, Japan is a weird country like that, no? Lastly, if her sexual appearance isn't affecting her sales, why is she doing it? Confused

Well, I guess that's what I have to say about my previous "sells her music using her body" statement. Tongue btw, I guess aifan929 is right about how she have involved in writing lyrics etc. for some of her songs instead of just singing.
 
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