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Celsius005
Posted: Jun 25, 2006 2:19 am Reply with quote
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I'm planning on buying my first digital camcorder,
but I am truly dumb when it comes to technology Laughing so I'm asking my fellow members for help if you would please.
The specific model I plan on getting is Aiptek MPVR 6MP MPEG4 Digital Camcorder with 4x Digital Zoom and I'm seeing a lot of features in it, but I'll mostly be using it for recording videos.
It's at 30 frames per second...is that decent? All of the videos are encoded in a MPEG-4 format, so will this allow me to share my videos with others via yousendit or something else?

The one I plan to get also comes with a USB cable so I'm sure I can upload the videos into my computer without any problems...along with a 1GB memory card. I'm not expecting anything top-notch, just something I can use to share my videos (with decent quality) at a reasonable price. The one in the link I gave is $136, but the one I'm considering is $142.49 new.

Thank you very much.
 
kazfz
Posted: Jun 25, 2006 4:50 am Reply with quote
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neeeeeeeeeeeeee i have one good cam for you ^_^ Nod
Click Here To See
LOL.cool isnt it ?

If you just wanna shoot some videos of you playing the instrument, it'll be good to stick to cheap ones i guess.... my lame dad bought a 400USD cam wihtout even using it Mad [should have been given to kazfz Smile ]
 
Celsius005
Posted: Jun 25, 2006 12:55 pm Reply with quote
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omg...Thanks kazfz-chan!! (I hope you don't mind me calling you this for the time being) Laughing
It's really nice!!! But...
The price is outrageous. Giggle
Hmm..yeah I was planning on using it for recording short videos of me playing, cheap is fine as long as the vid quality is fairly decent. Smile

Haha...I was wondering what I would see when I clicked your link and the $1,764.95 slapped me in the face. Laughing Sorry to hear about the cam though, you should definitely have it!
 
tsumetai.ame
Posted: Jun 25, 2006 6:31 pm Reply with quote
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This one should be good

That one's a lot cheaper than the one Kazfz posted, I think this one is about $600, but since at the moment Sony and Panasonic are probably the two best for video (except most people prefer Panasonic because they have newer models). When I first got my first digital two years back, I talked to a photographer and I was told that you shouldn't really get small sized ones because since they're so light, they tend to let your hand shake more. But that's unless you really just want one you can pop out of your pocket and take a couple of moments, then that should be o.k,, but if that was the case I would just use my phone.

And it has 3CCD, which makes the color alot better.
 
Celsius005
Posted: Jun 25, 2006 8:09 pm Reply with quote
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Wow thanks, it's really nice! I haven't seen this one yet, or this site for that matter.
Hmm...the color is great. I should really consider getting this someday! Smile
Except my parents just told me now that I can't get anything over $200, that's sad...
But I am expecting to get my money's worth if it has to be so inexpensive. ^_^

Even though my parents won't entrust me with this all to myself I'm sure they could use a new family camcorder thing anyway. Thank you very much tsumetai.ame, I'll keep this one in mind! Wink
 
eyn
Posted: Jun 25, 2006 9:13 pm Reply with quote
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Joined: 13 Apr 2005 Posts: 2094 Location: Canada
This article recently posted on CNET might just be what you're looking for, Celsius005. Before buying any electronics, I suggest you do some research using excellent site like CNET which gives you several search options such as price ranges, manufacturer and other technical specs.

The next step is to read the users review of the model that interest you and do more searches on Google to find out about other reviews from other sites. User reviews are usually the most reliable and useful information you can get about an electronic device, since they are opinions from user just like you. After reading all that, you should have a more complete idea about the product and less likely be affected by those biased "editors' review".

With all that said, Canon Elura 100 seems like a great product according to CNET's scores and feedback (though this review doesn't agree completely), but as with other cheap camcorders, its performances will degrade under low light condition. Think about how you would use this camcorder before you decide. If it's mostly indoor, you might want to consider a model that has great low light performance, unless you have great lighting in your house. Tongue

Lastly, this might be useful for beginners. I haven't bought any camcorder myself so it's better to leave those advices thingy for the experts: Beginner's Guide to Camcorders
 
Celsius005
Posted: Jun 25, 2006 10:07 pm Reply with quote
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Oh goodness, thank you eyn!
I was just thinking about that too...I was looking for such a site, but it seems you already found it for me.
Thank you so much! Smile

Yeah, I've been reading a lot of user reviews lately. Lighting seems to be the biggest problem in cheaper cameras. My ideal place to use this most often has plenty of light, so I'm sure it's covered. I'm not planning on using it a lot in other places either.

Thanks again eyn.
I'm pretty new to this technology stuff and my resources are limited (except for the internet but I couldn't find what I was looking for this time around). I'm glad I asked here before purchasing, I now can make better decisions when buying! I trust everyone here anyway.

I'll continue to research...then buy...then repay for the advice with something special if I can get it to work! Wink
 
kazfz
Posted: Jun 25, 2006 10:41 pm Reply with quote
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i dont know if its me but i had one cannon cam [ video-cam ] i dropped it and tada I CAN'T USE IT ANYMORE.... however if you want a camera [ taking pictures] cannon will be nice but video, go for panasonic ^_^ [ however i used to have this diskman which dropped and break into two ]... using sites to view if it trustable but in the end its all up to you !! *_*

Now you see see why kazfz chan doesnt hold a ipod LOL. [ ne Celsius005 kun ^_^ dont mind me calling you that ??, you can call me whatever you want " kazfz chan " sounds cute !!]
 
tsumetai.ame
Posted: Jun 25, 2006 10:56 pm Reply with quote
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About your cannon, well, I have a Sony one. The recent one I am using I have dropped about, I think five times and it still works. And about the ipod, I dropped my sony mp3 about seven times and it still works fine.

Well, the one I had they don't sell anymore, and that's the reason I didn't mention it before. The model's about 2 years old, I'm pretty sure that had been one of the best models of that line, it was like the panasonic one's size.

But here's one that looks good.

That one's hi8. The tapes are a bit bigger but that one doesn't look very bulky. I had a hi8 one before my minidv one. The tape still can load onto the computer even though some people say they can't, but they really can. And that one says the video quality is as good as a minidv one, and the price is better, you only have to throw in an eighty dollars.
 
kazfz
Posted: Jun 25, 2006 11:06 pm Reply with quote
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hmmmm its ok i guess, actually the old product tends to spoil less quickly compared to the new one.

Panasonic is mostly used for people to likes to change digital stuff every year or two. It came out in the news paper here in S'pore that their products are made to spoil in a year or two LOL...
 
Celsius005
Posted: Jun 25, 2006 11:10 pm Reply with quote
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Ah! So much to think about! >_<
I usually don't drop things, well....I hope I'll be fine. Laughing
Thanks for that note.

kazfz chan, you can call me Celsius kun since the 005 sounds a bit weird lol...As for yours:
san - too formal
kun - you're not a guy
chin - .....
kazfz chan - fits perfectly!

(back on topic here)
I'll keep all those tips in mind. My parents are still pressuring me to go for a cheap one since they aren't expecting me to use it a lot. Shifty
 
tsumetai.ame
Posted: Jun 25, 2006 11:16 pm Reply with quote
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Hmm, I know this is offtopic, too, but -kun can be used for girls too. Like in Pop Jrock you hear girls using boku all the time and in Vk Jrock you can here guys using atashi. But kun is only for good friends. Actually to me it sounds the coollest, haha.
 
Celsius005
Posted: Jun 25, 2006 11:42 pm Reply with quote
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Girls do sometimes say boku and can be called kun sometimes,
but I haven't heard guys say atashi before Shocked that's odd...

The only area in Japan I live in is Osaka, so I guess it's different in other areas depending where you live...
Really it's just preference how you want to refer to someone, but kun is most commonly accepted for guys, at least where I come from. I was raised as an Osaka person after all. But then again...
I haven't been back to Japan in a long time, so I am unaware with the new trends and what-not. No
I feel so behind. (Unless it has always been that way, then I missed a lot Surprised )

Hmm, kazfz chan comes naturally to me instead of kun, which is something I would only put on guys...
In the end, it's just personal preference. Smile Thanks for the info though, I learned something.

By the way tsumetai.ame, we should work together to have some of this pronoun stuff (atashi, boku, kun, etc.) in the Let's learn Japanese! thread, unless it's already in there. (I don't think so)
 
tsumetai.ame
Posted: Jun 25, 2006 11:59 pm Reply with quote
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Okay, it would be fun to help with that pronoun stuff. I wish I had good friends in Japan (we're not like really that close) so they would say kun haha. In Vk like Ayabie, Aoi uses Atashi. It was quite surprising for me at first, but then I got used to it as I heard a little bit more and more. Actually to me, I like masculine words more. Like boku sounds so cool. I really hate it when bands like in H!P try to use them to sound cute, they sound gross to me instead.

Well, I don't know any Osaka-ben except for a little bit (like two words, literally).
 
kazfz
Posted: Jun 26, 2006 2:44 am Reply with quote
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ne ne getting a lil jealous here boys ... hmm tsumetai.ame your a guy ?

I cant speak Japanese !!...omg omg omg[ off topic ]

well hit your mouth for saying you won't drop it Celsius kun !! LOL... its bad luck well i dont know .... but its safe to go with sony ^_^ unspoilerable LOL Nod
 
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