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ayumicrea
Posted: Jul 11, 2006 9:30 pm Reply with quote
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Has anyone else seen it? If you have what are your thoughts on it? I took both my sisters to see it the firday that it came out here. My sister is a huge Johnny Depp fan so she was excited to see it on that basis alone.

I really loved it and they did a wonderful job of setting it up for the third movie, except now I am too anxious to see the third movie. I don't want to spoil anything for those of you who haven't had the chance to see it yet.

I am not surprised a bit that it did so well in opening weekend but I am happy it beat Superman Returns (which I am sure is a good movie itself) just because of all the naysayers who were sure that SR would kill it at the box office. Tongue


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Aprilis.
Posted: Jul 11, 2006 9:46 pm Reply with quote
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I havn't seen it yet, but I will soon.

But just today, I read an article about it. In the first 3 days, it had made $135.6 millions. With that number, it broke the last Star War's opening record.
 
horizon180
Posted: Jul 12, 2006 6:30 am Reply with quote
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i saw pirates of the carribean last week on thursday when it opened here in the uk. i'm not surprised it did so well... it was so funny, and yet so cool. i really enjoyed it.

i too am looking forward to the third one...intently Boogie

damn you all who live in countries where superman returns has already opened.... i'm so jealous!!!

it opens here tomorrow (thursday 13th july - previews, but acutally opens friday). i can't wait to see it, personally im glad that its superman 5 as opposed to superman begins.... not that batman begins wasn't cool, but i dunno, i'm just glad that they're continuing the story from th previous films.

i plan to go to the cinema with lex luther cheers! he is my hero! so evil, so brilliant!

sorry, i know this is the pirates thread... yes it was awesome! the third one's coming out soon isn't it? i loved davey jones! especially when jack sparrow saw him through the telescope and he appeared right infront of him.... hahaha "shunpo!" << bleach reference.... (also called dimension door.. << d&d reference >> ... lol, davey jones took levels in sorc... d-door for the win Tongue and prestidigitation ofcourse to keep his tenticles shiny Laughing) ...

so cool! *drools*

^_^
 
marktobias
Posted: Jul 12, 2006 7:33 am Reply with quote
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There were some cool things about the film. It was pretty much on a par with the first one except it was a lot of the same so obviously it didn't feel as original.

Basically it's a good pirate romp. They did a good job with it.

I have to mention how annoying I find it that Hans Zimmer is still ripping off his own music from Gladiator....... but that seems to be something that only annoys me Giggle
 
horizon180
Posted: Jul 12, 2006 9:06 am Reply with quote
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marktobias wrote:
I have to mention how annoying I find it that Hans Zimmer is still ripping off his own music from Gladiator....... but that seems to be something that only annoys me Giggle

i think he's doing it on purpose, because it's so GENERIC... that's the entire idea behind pirates of carribean, its GENERIC, i mean c'mon Captain Jack Sparrow? Davey Jones' Locker? the generic music complements the genericness of the entire concept.

try and not get annoyed and jump on the generic bandwagon... or should i say band-"rolling wheel down an island through so much flat land that the wheel would so soon loose momentum but its ok since its a hollywood movie and it was cool"-wagon!

^_^
 
marktobias
Posted: Jul 12, 2006 10:05 am Reply with quote
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haha, yeah but it's not really generic music, it's one cue from one film that was already stolen from The Planets Giggle

It doesn't matter anyway, it just niggles at me while I'm watching the film Smile
 
Amai Neko
Posted: Jul 12, 2006 4:15 pm Reply with quote
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I saw Pirates of the Caribean 2 the day it was released...I dont know when that was. XD

It was a pretty cool movie. Giggle I just got a bit annoyed because I couldnt tell how far into the movie we were in (it was getting late and I was getting tired xD) because there was so much action going on! xD Sparrow is still cool as ever so that made up for it. Laughing

Did anyone stay after the credits? Of course I didnt. XD But I heard that

:SPOILER:

Jack turns into a zombie?
 
ch3rrie
Posted: Jul 13, 2006 2:55 am Reply with quote
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me too i saw it like three days ago.. overall it was an good movie.. but sometimes the stroy was hard to follow .. and the ending was weird.. not to spoil anything.. but i still want to watch the third movie.. its comming out in like may 2007.. soo long! i think i still liked the first one better.. but there were some great action scenes in this one !!
 
Aprilis.
Posted: Jul 14, 2006 2:39 am Reply with quote
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I saw it today, not bad. It was hard to follow the plot. On top of that, 2 and a hour hours might be a wee little bit too long.

One thing that really bug me throughout the film is how did the villians (the 2 pirates with the eyeball, monkey, and the captian) remained undead? Didn't they lift the curse in the first movie?
And Elizabeth kissing Jack and Will sees this without saying anything, is this really necessary? I mean, the plot is already so complex, do they really have to spice up the romance too?
 
orange_ka
Posted: Jul 14, 2006 12:40 pm Reply with quote
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I saw it last night, it was pretty good! put a side that orlando was SUPER CUTE, the movie was quite interesting and funny. I think its a bit better than the first one, but probably because there was more effects in this one.

The storyline was a bit confusing at first, but I kinda get it afterwards. There were more funny parts in "Dead Man's Chest", and I did have fun watching the whole movie.

I should REALLY start staying after the credits, there is something special at the end again???? Did anybody else stay after the credits?
 
zyzzyva
Posted: Jul 19, 2006 1:22 pm Reply with quote
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:Contains Spoilers:
(kinda, but seeing as I hate knowing anything before seeing a movie, just thought I'd give a warning) Tongue

I saw this at a midnight showing before opening day, but haven't gotten around to this thread until now...
I enjoyed the movie, though not as much as the first one. I'm kind of a picky person when it comes to movies. I like to be surprised and entertained, of course, and most of all, be immersed in the world presented to me. I got all that and more from the Curse of the Black Pearl. This one, not as much.

While it was exciting and the effects were amazing, I thought the script was trying a bit too hard and ended up rather lack-luster. The over-all story was fine and fitting, it was the bits that I took issue with. It didn't have the same cleverness and inovation that made the first one so special.
A sequel is always more difficult to pull off, I know, and it is held to a higher standard because of the expectations set by the previous chapter. Especially considering how this was written as a middle movie to a trilogy--by definition it is only a transitional piece [a similar thing happened with The Two Towere of the Lord of the Rings trilogy... it was an amazing film, but certainly couldn't stand alone and left you feeling unsatisfied].
While I still laughed a lot, many of the jokes I felt were too much just references to the first film. Of course things like carrying over the eunuch jokes and other running gags was forseeable and necessary, I felt others were more tiresome. (They really ran the dog w/ keys reference and joke into the ground... It was a great part of the first movie [and of the original ride], but they ruin its short and sweet nature in this one...)
An excellent example is when Will and Gov. Swan is in the jail visiting Elizabeth and the Gov. accidently breaks off part of the wall-candelabra just like Will does at the beginning of the first movie. Granted, this instance was more subtle than others throughout the movie, but I felt it was completely unnecessary.
I just felt there were so many times throughout the movie when I felt like the director/writers/etc. were elbowing me in the side, saying, "Look! Remember the first movie? Huh? Huh? See how we did that? Make you think of the original film? Aren't we clever? You loved the first one, so doesn't this make you love this one?!" argh. No
It just completely took me out of the movie.

There was a lot I liked in Dead Man's Chest (DMC), tho, don't get me wrong. There was just less for me to, um, 'unconditionally love' as there was is Curse of the Black Pearl (CotBP)...

I still *love* Johnny Depp's performance of Capt. Jack Sparrow!! So wonderfully acted and so completely invovled in the character...
I also really loved Davy Jones and thought his whole storyline and use of terms [Davy Jones' Locker, The Flying Dutchman, and the Black Spot] was fantastically handled (plus who doesn't *love* Bill Nighy? Love).

I also really enjoyed the character of Tia Dalma (the voodoo woman) and the incorporation of the Bayou section of the ride for her environment.
--Which brings me to a personal thought about the movie and the upcoming final installment... When the men are at Tia's the first time, Jack is seen pocketing quite a few of her trinkets. In one shot of items strewn on a table we see a large-ish silver heart-shaped locket/music box that is identical to the one we later see open on Davy Jones' organ, playing a sad romantic tune. Personally, I think that Tia Dalma is the woman for whom Davy Jones removed his heart--his lost love. Considering her magic abilities, who knows how old she is really. Plus she seems so proud when telling his story. Considering the location and the overall time period, it's possible he was a son on/owner of a plantation and their romance would have been completely forbidden, even if she had been willing and not 'as untameable as the sea', or however his lover was described.
Just a theory, of course, but either way I think the music box locket will be very important in the thrid movie...

On another note...
Aprilis. wrote:
One thing that really bug me throughout the film is how did the villians (the 2 pirates with the eyeball, monkey, and the captian) remained undead? Didn't they lift the curse in the first movie?
Pintel <-short, bald) & Ragetti <-wooden eye) :
If you watch the final battle of CotBP, right after the curse is lifted, all the pirates on the ship return to life/normal. If I remember correctly, those who sustained fatal injuries just prior, despite being in undead-skeletal form at that time, then drop dead (really dead) in front of their opponents.
(This is better shown in the death of Barbosa: he's shot by Jack while still cursed [and not in the moonlight, so he's not a skeleton] and nothing but maybe ashes fall out; the curse is lifted and because the bullet and hole is still in him, he starts to bleed and then dies. Theoretically, if he, before the curse was lifted, had quickly stepped into the moonlight, thereby becoming skeletal, and allowed the bullet to fall down and out, he wouldn't have died just then. But that would've been really dumb story-wise and not nearly as dramatic an end... Wink Giggle )
Pintel & Ragetti, probably thanks to their more cowardly nature, were not mortally wounded at the time, so continued to live. They then escaped from jail/gallows somehow, and end up in the rowboat where we meet them again in DMC.
Monkey:
If you stayed after the credits of CotBP, the end clip clears that up. We see that the monkey returned to Isla de Muerta and removes another piece from the chest of cursed Aztec gold, thereby cursing himself again in a new (and separate) personal-monkey curse.
Captain Barbosa:
He was uncursed and then killed at the end of CotBP (see above P&R paragraph).
Why he's back to "life", I'm sure will be explained in the thrid movie (especially considering how this one ended with him). It may have to do with Tia Dalma's magics, but probably more to do with the process described by her as the way to get Jack back--sailing to the ends of the earth. She says the crew'll need a captain familiar with those waters--so who better than Barbosa who's already died and come back (possibly more than once, seeing as is the CotBP, he was described at one point as being 'so evil that Hell itself spat him back out'! Shocked)

Hope all that helps, Aprilis.!

Lastly, speaking of the after-credits clip (also since orange_ka was asking as well):
Amai Neko wrote:
Did anyone stay after the credits? Of course I didnt. XD But I heard that

:SPOILER:

Jack turns into a zombie?
I think someone is trying to mess with you, Amai Neko! Giggle
Just in case some people have seen DMC, but want to see it again for the clip, I'll make this bitty:
We return to the island of cannibals and find the dog (the key holder) has been made chief, like Jack, and is sitting on the throne in the headdress. Instead of the famous keys, he is holding in his mouth what appears to be a human femur. It's a very short clip. If you think about it, tho, this is kinda sad, considering the fate of the chief is to be eventually eaten...


Sorry to leave such a long post, guys... Embarassed In a way kinda appropriate for such a long and dense movie though... There's just so much there to talk about. Nod Love
 
Aprilis.
Posted: Jul 21, 2006 11:31 am Reply with quote
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Thanks for the explaination zyzzyva, it makes more sense now.

Your theory about the voodoo lady and Davy Jones sounds interesting. But I guess we'll have to wait for the 3rd one to find out what happened! :grin"

So umm... there was a bonus clip at the end of the credits? I thought it was weird that so many people remain seated as I was leaving.
 
Celsius005
Posted: Jul 30, 2006 1:23 pm Reply with quote
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I haven't seen this movie yet, and I don't remember much of the first one.
Playing Kingdom Hearts 2 refreshed my memory a little bit, but nothing seemed very familiar... How sad. No
Eh, well my cousin in Japan bought me a PotC necklace a while ago, and I've been wearing it ever since. I've never worn any accessories before, so I feel quite different wearing it all the time. Though I'm not sure how stylish it looks. Giggle

Anyway, the real reason I came here was to inform everyone that Otsuka Ai watched a special screening of this movie sometime around July 18th. She made a very brief comment about it in the ai Think section of her Avex website.

"Dendededededen! ♪ It was very entertaining! It was a very enjoyable movie, so I may watch it again sometime! Dendededededen! ♪" - Otsuka Ai

(Awesome review, Ai! Shifty Laughing)
 
sailor_gurl91
Posted: Aug 02, 2006 5:31 am Reply with quote
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Hey!!
I saw Pirates in the first two days it came out. I was never really into it when the 1st movie came out, but now Im obsessing over it! Also coz my orchustra is playing the soundtrack at the moment, and it has a very good soundtrack, I think. So, yeah I did like PotC2, but now Im really impatient to see the next one!! Doesnt it come out early next year? Blank stare
btw, Johnny is so hot in this movie!!! Boogie
 
Aprilis.
Posted: Aug 02, 2006 12:07 pm Reply with quote
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I think the third movie comes out around September 2007. So... about a year?

Thanks for the Ai comment Celsius005! Lol, Ai sounds like a giddy school girl there Laughing
 
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