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Why Borat is the WORST MOVIE EVER!

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Eugeniu
Posted: May 24, 2007 6:30 pm Reply with quote
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Hello. Two years after making this post, I reread it and decided that it's actually pretty embarrassing, so I removed it. Smile


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Rokit
Posted: May 24, 2007 8:04 pm Reply with quote
大好きだよ。 大好きだよ。
Joined: 08 Oct 2005 Posts: 217 Location: California
Well, I never wanted to the movie in the first place but ended up seeing it after soo much people were talking about it. And even the crtics gave it good reviews. -_-;; After watching it, I have to say it was funny however at the same time disturbing. I ended up watching it again since my friend wanted to see it, (and at the time, I was working at the movie theatres so i got in for free) so we went to see it. The second time around it wasn't as funny. This isn't a movie that I would watch over and over.... just like those Jackass movies. These kind of movies aren't for me.
 
Eugeniu
Posted: May 25, 2007 7:25 am Reply with quote
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Joined: 23 May 2007 Posts: 113
^ Yep, somewhat funny and at the same time disturbing, same with me...
 
cnix
Posted: Jun 06, 2007 8:04 pm Reply with quote
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Joined: 29 Oct 2006 Posts: 189
lol you only scratch the surface on what needs to be said about his movie. in fact, you're really missing the point. take a look at this review [ i've bolded key points ]:

“You can tell a lot about somebody by his reaction to this film.

It's not all that surprising that the few reviewers who don't like "Borat" tend to be exactly the sorts of people Sascha Cohen targets in the film for their ignorance and bigotry. Nobody likes being laughed at, regardless of how much s/he deserves it. So you get reviewers admitting that "America is falling apart from the inside," but transferring their outrage onto "foreigners" like Cohen for making essentially the same observation. It's like people who think the problem with the Iraq War is the "liberal media."

Cohen as Borat is hilarious because he perfectly imitates what he's making fun of. But the real comedy consists in the reactions he gets from stupid people by convincing them that he's "on the team." One of the best moments in the film is when he yells "We support your war of terror" through a bullhorn at a Virginia rodeo, and the crowd goes nuts with enthusiasm. They don't "get it" until he starts mangling the national anthem. These are people who never understand the substance of anything, who only react to symbolism.

"Borat" is full of moments like this - in fact, it's relentless. But it works precisely because Cohen never actually shows his hand. He doesn't directly attack misogynists, antisemites, homophobes, American imperialists, etc - instead he pretends to be sympathetic to them. He sets them up and then lets them obliviously write the punchlines. He's almost like the anti-Jeff Foxworthy - "You know you're a redneck if you take me seriously."

One thing you keep hearing with regard to this movie is that "it's not for the faint hearted," etc. Perhaps not; but the brilliant thing is, this sort of comedy actually does provoke thought by getting people to laugh at their own character flaws. It's never preachy, but it makes its point, and there really is quite a bit of intelligence behind the ridiculously crude humor. I'd recommend it to anybody capable of getting into an R movie. If you ask me, "American Pie" was ten times as "offensive" and not even a tenth as funny without having any point whatsoever. “
-absinthesis418

If you are offended by humor pushing the envelope on sensitive issues or have to worry about the cost behind the film production, save your ten dollars and go see The Santa Clause movie. I also don't think the producers "made" the college students say anything. That's probably why their accusations never got far. Honestly, if you're going to bash a good movie, do it right.
 
Rinoa
Posted: Jun 07, 2007 5:11 am Reply with quote
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Joined: 14 Apr 2005 Posts: 2039 Location: Europe
Eugeniu wrote:
4 ) The producers DIDN'T SPEND A CENT on the entire movie, and they get HUGE PROFITS from it!

Didn't watch the movie but if they didn't spend money and still get profits I think they are pretty smart people when you compare how some producers spend so much money on promotion and end up with a box failure.
 
marktobias
Posted: Jul 02, 2007 4:05 pm Reply with quote
大好きだよ。 大好きだよ。
Joined: 10 Feb 2006 Posts: 247 Location: Peterborough, England
Eugeniu wrote:

2 ) The actor for Borat is A JEW HIMSELF! You can see it in his face. And yet they pretend that Jews are demonic creatures.

That fact is relatively well know in England. His surname is a bit of a giveaway Giggle
When he's speaking "Kazakh" he's actually speaking Hebrew.

I just think his approach and the way he gets laughs is so obvious and simple that there's no real intelligence to it any more. A lot of the jokes had already been used in sketches that he'd done on UK TV and he soon runs out of original jokes anyway.

I was forced to watch it at a get together with a few friends and they were all really into it and saying stuff like "This bit is so shocking!" but it was all so obviously shock for shock value. I'm not wording things well tonight Tongue
 
Celsius005
Posted: Jul 03, 2007 12:55 pm Reply with quote
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Joined: 23 May 2006 Posts: 685 Location: USA
Eugeniu wrote:
4 ) The producers DIDN'T SPEND A CENT on the entire movie, and they get HUGE PROFITS from it!

I haven't seen the movie either, but it's a good thing that revenue exceeds the cost of inputs. While the morality of the movie may be debatable, one cannot deny that it was economically a success based on this statement. Rather than this being a reason why it sucks, it sounds more to me like you simply resent the fact that a movie you don't like cashed in quite a bit.
 
marktobias
Posted: Jul 03, 2007 4:38 pm Reply with quote
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Joined: 10 Feb 2006 Posts: 247 Location: Peterborough, England
It would have cost something. There are always costs involved in making a film. Advertising being one of the most obvious.

The budget I saw for it was $18million.
 
Celsius005
Posted: Jul 03, 2007 11:50 pm Reply with quote
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Joined: 23 May 2006 Posts: 685 Location: USA
^ Yes that's true. Though its budget may not even come close to that of an adventure film such as Pirates of the Caribbean, $18 million still isn't something to scoff at. Like Rinoa said, I think it just shows how clever the producers were.
 
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