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The End of Ai Otsuka

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chokokokoa
Posted: Feb 09, 2011 6:01 am Reply with quote
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Joined: 11 Jun 2009 Posts: 1481
Rocket Sneaker wrote:
The title almost made me cry Oh noes Anyway, I don't think we have to worry so much about Ai-chin since even if her albums aren't selling as much as they used to, her lives and merchandise are as big as they used to be, plus it's already a given that she will prioritize being a soon to be mommy first. I know for a fact Ai-chin will have a big comeback Giggle

I am sure about it. Nod
 
Qinrong1992
Posted: Feb 09, 2011 8:17 am Reply with quote
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Joined: 08 Feb 2011 Posts: 47 Location: Jurong West St 42
I'm sure she will be happy now eventhough her album is not selling that much like the past. She will be very excited as her baby is going to born out... By the way ,don't be sad. We should be cheerful!!~ Love
 
saltvanilla04
Posted: Mar 22, 2011 9:01 am Reply with quote
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Joined: 14 Nov 2009 Posts: 144 Location: Philippines
Whew. My heartbeat pace rise when I read the title.. Shocked

She will come back.. I am already imagining Ai-chin composing some songs during her pregnancy days. She will come back. Let us be optimistic about it, guys.

I actually like action 10.5.. It's kinda like Perfume's techno songs and also Ai-chin's Lucky Star though when I saw the PV for the first time, it's kinda weird.. But yes, the message and the melody of the song actually piqued my interest.

I don't know what is the issue about Avex Trax and Ai-chin's promotions. I hear this a lot of times though.. Just... Let us stay here... Wait for her, and continue to support her right guys? Smile
 
lulu33
Posted: Apr 22, 2011 6:16 pm Reply with quote
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Joined: 22 Apr 2011 Posts: 102
I hope she has a comeback soon!
 
LittleBigHeart
Posted: May 21, 2011 7:15 am Reply with quote
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Joined: 15 Jul 2008 Posts: 1669 Location: Osaka, JAPAN
Poor Ai-chan...
The more I talk with japanese ppl, the more I find there are lot of ppl who don't like her anymore because of rumors (like the fact she "did" porno, plastic surgery, plagiarism...)
Did u know there is a "anti-ai otsuka" community on mixi, which is a very very very popular social platform. It seems they are a lot, and the number of ppl in ai-otsuka community are decreasing day by day...
It's not helping her AT ALL. We are, like, all the time talking about the fact it may be because of her music quality, but I'm 98% sure it's because of her unpopularity if she cannot do a come back in music industry...
Ganbare Ai-chan Sad !
 
Crystallas
Posted: May 21, 2011 8:04 am Reply with quote
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LOL Ai-chan and pornography.
 
skeedatl
Posted: May 21, 2011 9:54 am Reply with quote
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Joined: 01 Feb 2010 Posts: 4374 Location: Himeji
With her new family she likely isn't concerned much. If she were concerned about continuing her career she could still be involved with the fans through social media like Twitter. Throughout her career we read in interviews that she always said if the music didn't work out, she had other plans. Music came from her heart and it never seemed to be what drove her. She drove the music and now she is driving family. It could be as simple as she wishes to be anonymous again. In any event, I'm very happy for her.

We have to be realistic. The vast majority of the time artists come and go. Rarely do they carry on a strong career longer than 8 or 10 years. As far as the anti-AIO people; a lot of people follow fads and the people I talk to that don't like Ai-chin any more are those I recognize as not really appreciating "real" songwriters. These people tend to follow corporate steered or created music. It's like they pick their favorites based on what Oricon or MNET says instead of what their hearts and ears are telling them. It's like Groupthink.

If this is all the music I will ever hear from Ai-chin, I will still be content. It is a great catalog of songs and concert videos. Personally if she does come back to media in 5 or 6 years I hope it is on screen in television or movies.

As for the rumors...people start nasty rumors when they have no valid criticisms. They're all dopes.

It doesn't surprise me that AIO forums and groups on social media sites like MIXI are emptying out. This I think is for a lot of reasons. At Ch-Ai for example, I see I am the one of the oldest users, so my life has not gone through a bunch of changes lately. But most users here started viewing in their teens and over the last 5 years their lives have drastically changed as school got busy like Octo or they go off to college or off to a new career like Jade. It leaves less time for this sort of thing. Then combine that with nothing really new to talk about and it adds up to an inactive forum.
 
chokokokoa
Posted: May 21, 2011 11:27 am Reply with quote
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LittleBigHeart wrote:
(like the fact she "did" porno, plastic surgery, plagiarism...)

The "fact"? Not "fact" right? The sentence could make people who don't know her well confuse and think negative about her.


skeedatl wrote:
We have to be realistic. The vast majority of the time artists come and go. Rarely do they carry on a strong career longer than 8 or 10 years. As far as the anti-AIO people; a lot of people follow fads and the people I talk to that don't like Ai-chin any more are those I recognize as not really appreciating "real" songwriters. These people tend to follow corporate steered or created music. It's like they pick their favorites based on what Oricon or MNET says instead of what their hearts and ears are telling them. It's like Groupthink.




skeedatl wrote:
As for the rumors...people start nasty rumors when they have no valid criticisms. They're all dopes.

Nod Nod Nod
 
Miku
Posted: May 21, 2011 5:39 pm Reply with quote
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Joined: 05 Jul 2007 Posts: 303 Location: France, Lyon
LittleBigHeart wrote:
Poor Ai-chan...
The more I talk with japanese ppl, the more I find there are lot of ppl who don't like her anymore because of rumors (like the fact she "did" porno, plastic surgery, plagiarism...)


You're too pessimistic Kami lol

The 'porn rumor' is totally wrong and everybody knows.
Japan always LOVE to see really cute and pure girl to fall into porn industry
that's the reason why, a sex actress uses the image of Ai Otsuka to play with it and to sell more porn DVD

Well, this rumor come from LOVE COOK era
this isn't a really good reason of why Ai's popularity decreased because Ai am BEST / LOVE PiECE era has been successful.

That's the same with plagiarism, from the beginning with songs like Coco Natsu Vacation, SMILY, Neko ni Fuusen or others I don't really remember but this isn't new. She is accused of plagiarism but it's stupid. Even Planetarium PV has been considerated as a 'tribute' to RIKKI not a copy. Otherwise RIKKI would complain about that and there was nothing about it.

As for Plastic surgery, yes you're right
A lot of japanese people believed Ai Otsuka has done plastic surgery o_o
I really don't think so but that can't explain the popularity of Ai

You just have to look at Ayumi Hamasaki (even if I like it) we can't deny she has done plastic surgery and her fanbase is still really strong.

Why? Oh why...?
 
May-chan91
Posted: May 22, 2011 10:28 am Reply with quote
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Joined: 31 May 2008 Posts: 1172 Location: Fukuoka, JAPAN
To me it looks like a suicide from ai-chin ... maybe she just wants to stop music. i hope not but i'm ready to not see her for years now ... it's hard to think about it but well her life is different now she's writing a new chapter now.
She doesn't do anything to stay in touch with the industry .

For all the communities , there always these kind of things people just have time to waste their life are just too empty to be interesting and they feel the need to create such things to try to give a sense to their life.

But she wants to keep and share something with her fans through the LOVE9CUBE premium imo. sure it's a way to make money but in a way she doesn't cut the relation between her and the people who followed her since her debut and who are still by her side and giving her love and power.
 
LittleBigHeart
Posted: May 22, 2011 12:24 pm Reply with quote
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^Yeah, and btw, I wonder what kind of photos we'll get !
I hope for recent photos !
 
saltvanilla04
Posted: May 23, 2011 4:29 am Reply with quote
金魚花火 金魚花火
Joined: 14 Nov 2009 Posts: 144 Location: Philippines
LittleBigHeart wrote:
^Yeah, and btw, I wonder what kind of photos we'll get !
I hope for recent photos !


I'm excited for the photos too! Giggle

Reading your posts makes me miss Ai-chin more. And now I'm playing Renai Shashin which makes my eyes teary.

I'm hoping that she is just taking a break and enjoying her life together with SU, her baby and her family. Though it's kinda selfish, I want her to continue on composing and singing her music. Like there will be LOVE is BORN 8th Anniversary, 9th Anniversary and so on. But if she choses to not be on-stage anymore, I wish her all the best and will continue to support her. Love Smile
 
LoveSkywalker
Posted: May 23, 2011 10:29 am Reply with quote
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Joined: 20 Oct 2009 Posts: 170 Location: Poland
Miku wrote:
You're too pessimistic Kami lol


Agree Wink

Miku wrote:
The 'porn rumor' is totally wrong and everybody knows.
Japan always LOVE to see really cute and pure girl to fall into porn industry
that's the reason why, a sex actress uses the image of Ai Otsuka to play with it and to sell more porn DVD


Yes. Honestly speaking, I encountered somewhere on Google something very familiar but also nasty and disgusting at the same time. It was a DVD cover of one pr0n movies which was intentionally made very similar to "LOVE JAM" artwork. The actress even looked somewhat like Ai. It was meant to be confusing IMO, and people who don't know Ai that much could think that it was she "starring" in the movie Mad

When I saw it I thought it was really disgusting. And what was funny was the fact that you only had to type "Otsuka Ai LOVE JAM" (using kanji) in Google Graphics to see it...

I wonder whether avex did something about it. For them it's not even the matter of insulting Otsuka, but a bunch of copyright violations to deal with... Tongue

I don't think that plastic surgery had any influence on Ai's popularity. Ayu, Namie and Koda had much more visible cosmetic surgeries and so what? It only added to their popularity, because they're so pretty now (don't yell at me, but I think that Namie Amuro did benefit from these Tongue). I wouldn't be surprised if Ai commited one delicate cosmetic improvement and... SO WHAT?! Even if she did improve her eyelids so now that they're pretty AND she wants to maintain the effect without going any further, I don't mind.

Don't be so pessimistic, minna Wink Rumours are nothing really special. Maybe people spread them, because Ai is naturally too perfect and this annoys them? Love
 
LittleBigHeart
Posted: May 23, 2011 3:02 pm Reply with quote
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Oohoh, I don't say AT ALL that I agree with all that.
And I'm not pessimistic, I don't think so. It's just reality. Like a japanese friend of mine said, with her "Ai Otsuka" name, it's very difficult for her to do a real come back in music industry, since her popularity is very low. Hopefully, she got a very strong fanbase (japanese and foreigner), which I think will always support her, but since, the most of japanese ppl doesn't think she's cool anymore. I'm not saying this by myself, it's not me who pretend, or create that.
To tell the truth, when i started my japanese study at uni, i was so exciting to meet some japanese, who like her. I could meet more than 100, and sadly, no one like her now (but they used to before), and even some of them told me she is a bit** !!! See !
(BTW, I don't think all japanese are like that, as I said, she has a cool japanese fanbase, who with I sometimes exchange !)

No, really, I love so so so so much Ai-chan, and I wish her the best, but this is reality.
She need a powerful single, some new, refreshing with an Ai-touch. Something which will make forget all the crap away ! Because, I still think Ai-chan deserves to be on the top !!
But now, of course, the most important is her family, her husband and cute kid (i guess ^^), and let's with all this hapiness inspires her to create some masterpiece music with strong lyrics !
 
woaini
Posted: May 23, 2011 4:52 pm Reply with quote
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I hadn't heard anything about all this supposed porn and what-not, thats kind of a shocking allegation, but I don't really believe it, actually I find it kind of funny. Laughing But I was aware of the 'Suteki da ne vs 'Planetarium' fiasco, I personally don't think they sound all that similar, but thats just me. Plus I dont think Ai-chin would do that, she has too much talent to rely on such crooked tactics.

As for the dropping popularity... eh like Skee said... artists come and go through the years, some last longer than others. And sadly, a lot of the time it really is because of what music companies want, what they believe should be mainstream as opposed to actual talent. And unfortunatly for the real artists, the public is really buying into it... Sad but true. hmm

With Ai... its kinda like what happened with BoA :. She started out with a sweet and innocent style of music that everyone loved and got used too, then when she got older and decided to change to a more mature style they decided they didnt like it and chose not to accept it. Honestly they need to get over it, she cant stay a child forever, she's grown up and her music is going to reflect that.

And if they dont then good riddence to them... Laughing they dont have true music appreciation. Ai doesnt need fans that jump ship because she decided go in a different direction. She knows who her real fans are now. Her real fans are still here, supporting her and sending her love in anyway they can, reguardless of what she chooses to do in the future. Nod
 
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