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Google's translation of Ai Otsuka's name

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pon pon
Posted: Oct 06, 2010 6:48 pm Reply with quote
クムリウタ クムリウタ
Joined: 16 Jul 2006 Posts: 1011 Location: Melbourne, Australia
recently, Google's translation of Ai Otsuka's name in Japanese (大塚 愛) has been coming out as Ootsuka Megumi. is this a valid alternate translation of her Japanese name?

if not, then i wonder if it is some sort of Google bomb by some person/group to get the translation of her name changed. if this is the case, then the way to correct it would be to "vote" for an "Ai Otsuka" translation by hovering your mouse over Ootsuka Megumi and clicking on "Contribute a better translation:". if enough people do it then it should revert back to "Ai Otsuka".
 
Koda
Posted: Oct 06, 2010 6:55 pm Reply with quote
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Joined: 27 Oct 2008 Posts: 12319
The kanji for 愛 is usable in many names, and it is pronounceable as 'めぐみ'. Comprehensive dictionary Denshi Jisho shows a list of probable pronunciation for the 'Ai' kanji:
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Japanese names: あ、 あし、 え、 かな、 なる、 まな、 めぐ、 めぐみ、 よし

http://jisho.org/kanji/details/%E6%84%9B
So "Megumi" is possible, but less probable than "Ai". I wonder how and why "Megumi" shows up, though Confused Confused Never heard of any Otsuka Megumi's out there....
 
chokokokoa
Posted: Oct 06, 2010 11:18 pm Reply with quote
恋愛写真 恋愛写真
Joined: 11 Jun 2009 Posts: 1481
As I'm studying Japanese academically, I would not take my reference just from Denshi Jisho.

The kanji 愛 are pronounce as:
1. Ai (for on'yomi)
2. Ito * (for kun'yomi)
3. Me ** (for kun'yomi)
4. Mana *** (for kun'yomi)
5. U **** (for kun'yomi)

* The pronounciation of Ito cannot stand alone and it's part of Itoshii (愛しい).
** The pronounciation of Me cannot stand alone and it's part of Mederu (愛でる).
*** The pronounciation of Mana cannot stand alone and it's part of Manadeshi (愛弟子) and Manamusume (愛娘).
**** The pronounciation of U cannot stand alone and it's part of Ui (愛い).


Additional pronounciations:
1. E * (for kun'yomi)
2. O ** (for kun'yomi)

* The pronounciation of E cannot stand alone and it's part of Ehime (愛媛).
** The pronounciation of O cannot stand alone and it's part of Oshimu (愛しむ). But this is an obsolete pronounciation and no longer used now.


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flintandtas
Posted: Oct 07, 2010 12:58 am Reply with quote
クラゲ, 流れ星 クラゲ, 流れ星
Joined: 07 Jul 2009 Posts: 8451 Location: Sydney, Australia
I've noticed this as well and am quite annoyed by it Mad Actually I see sometimes it translated as Megumi and Ai in the same article which is really strange Confused

Megumi though, is a valid translation for 愛 (for names anyway), an example is, 中島 愛 Nakajima Megumi.

... maybe its all her fault Blank stare

Anyway, I think the only thing that can be done is pon pon's suggestion, suggest an alternative translation, and hopefully if enough people do it, it will revert back to showing Ai.

Just as an aside, in one of the chat room games, we noticed if you translate Koda to Japanese, and then retranslate it back to english using google translate, you get Kumi Laughing
 
chokokokoa
Posted: Oct 07, 2010 3:23 am Reply with quote
恋愛写真 恋愛写真
Joined: 11 Jun 2009 Posts: 1481
flintandtas wrote:
Megumi though, is a valid translation for 愛 (for names anyway), an example is, 中島 愛 Nakajima Megumi.

Yes, I just wanted to add the possibility for names.
As I wrote earlier is for pronounciations of Japanese language, not related to names. But based on academic, which is not studies about names.

 
chokokokoa
Posted: Sep 01, 2011 5:57 am Reply with quote
恋愛写真 恋愛写真
Joined: 11 Jun 2009 Posts: 1481
It seems the google translations of Ai-chin's name are now correct again. Smile
 
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