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skeedatl
Posted: Aug 31, 2011 5:37 pm Reply with quote
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Joined: 01 Feb 2010 Posts: 4374 Location: Himeji
I disagree this has been 20 years in the making. I looked at the Oricon top 50 albums sold 2002-2007 and soloists dominate; Utada, Ayumi, Koda Kumi all have multiple albums in the top 15 and there are other soloists in the top 15 as well. The rest of the top 50 is also full of soloists. And that was just a few years ago.

As recently as 2008-2009 you had soloists regularly charting well while at the same time you saw EXILE and Arashi start dethroning everyone as top sellers. Now you rarely see a soloist chart well on Oricon.

This trend of the anti-idols not charting well is a relatively new phenomena, starting around 2007-2008.

I am convinced this AKB dance-troop craze is just a temporary fad, no different than the USA saw in the late 1990's. Spice Girls, boy bands (98 Degrees, N-Sync, etc)...all suddenly HUGELY popular and then suddenly vanish.

And now you hardly ever see a dance pop group like that chart on Billboard (the US equivalent of Oricon). Again soloists and conventional bands dominate Billboard charts. There is nothing like those groups on Billboard these days unless you want to call Hot Chelle Rae a "boy band".

I'm sure the same will happen in Japan. In 4 or 5 years the AKB types will fade away and regular bands and soloists will return to chart dominance. Music has always been a constantly evolving medium. Nothing in music stays the same. The anti-idols will be popular again just as they're popular again here in the US.
 
jimmy_sg
Posted: Sep 07, 2011 10:33 am Reply with quote
甘えんぼ 甘えんぼ
Joined: 24 Aug 2008 Posts: 76 Location: Singapore
It's going to be Ai-Chan birthday soon and this year we have no LIB's concert... T_T
 
lanfix
Posted: Sep 09, 2011 8:17 am Reply with quote
甘えんぼ 甘えんぼ
Joined: 22 Aug 2010 Posts: 56 Location: DEEP FOREST
Yeah I feel so weird no LIB today and also when I watch a-nation's preview last week there was no Aichin as well.
But considering she's now very happy celebrating her birthday with her husband and daughter - it's also the first time for her celebrating birthday as mother! XD - I think I can wait longer until she's ready to come back Nod
 
Zacek
Posted: Oct 06, 2011 5:47 pm Reply with quote
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Joined: 11 Jan 2009 Posts: 15 Location: Mexico
skeedatl wrote:
I disagree this has been 20 years in the making. I looked at the Oricon top 50 albums sold 2002-2007 and soloists dominate; Utada, Ayumi, Koda Kumi all have multiple albums in the top 15 and there are other soloists in the top 15 as well. The rest of the top 50 is also full of soloists. And that was just a few years ago.

As recently as 2008-2009 you had soloists regularly charting well while at the same time you saw EXILE and Arashi start dethroning everyone as top sellers. Now you rarely see a soloist chart well on Oricon.

This trend of the anti-idols not charting well is a relatively new phenomena, starting around 2007-2008.

I am convinced this AKB dance-troop craze is just a temporary fad, no different than the USA saw in the late 1990's. Spice Girls, boy bands (98 Degrees, N-Sync, etc)...all suddenly HUGELY popular and then suddenly vanish.

And now you hardly ever see a dance pop group like that chart on Billboard (the US equivalent of Oricon). Again soloists and conventional bands dominate Billboard charts. There is nothing like those groups on Billboard these days unless you want to call Hot Chelle Rae a "boy band".

I'm sure the same will happen in Japan. In 4 or 5 years the AKB types will fade away and regular bands and soloists will return to chart dominance. Music has always been a constantly evolving medium. Nothing in music stays the same. The anti-idols will be popular again just as they're popular again here in the US.


I agree 100% with you, the Oricon for the last 3 years has been depressiive. But let's hope this chages over time.
 
mangomalte
Posted: Oct 07, 2011 2:43 am Reply with quote
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Joined: 10 Oct 2006 Posts: 3587 Location: Sweden
^ yeah.... check out the top 200 singles of 2010. seriously, it's scary.

http://www.generasia.com/wiki/2010_Oricon_Top_200_Singles

top 10 = 6 ARASHI singles and 4 AKB48 singles.
i count 7 singles in the top 32 that aren't idol groups, but solo artists. however, two of those are Yamashita Tomohisa (NEWS) and Sato Ohno (ARASHI, although in disguise as "Kaibutsu-kun").

2009 isn't much better.
http://www.generasia.com/wiki/2009_Oricon_Top_200_Singles

but then again the albums rankings aren't nearly as crazy. idols sell crazy many singles.
 
LittleBigHeart
Posted: Mar 11, 2012 11:47 am Reply with quote
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Joined: 15 Jul 2008 Posts: 1683 Location: Osaka, JAPAN
I didn't want to create a new topic but... I really hope there will be a LIB this year !

Plus, it'll be 2012.9.9 and... 12+9+9=30 ^^ And this will celebreate her 30th anniversary btw so... i found it funny Tongue !
 
ChibiUsagi
Posted: Mar 11, 2012 6:51 pm Reply with quote
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Joined: 15 Oct 2009 Posts: 30
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Her next LiB will be even more special then! The 9th Anniversary on the 9th day of the 9th month! Giggle


I did not even think of that but im sure she would have to do something for that anniversary.

but all this talk of ai maybe not coming back plus the idol groups instead of a soloist really had me thinking. I do like the groups like 2ne1 arashi and snsd but at the end of the day its always the soloist i come back to. where the groups come out with some pretty amazing music i dont think i could name one song or performance that is as powerful as an ai otsuka song or ayumi hamasaki and even koda kumi. some of the best love songs or the songs that just make you cry are by soloist. plus there is just one person you get to know and feel like its more then just a fan celebrity kind of thing but more of a person you could relate to.

i dont think i ever thought of a time when ai otsuka wouldnt be making music lol but ill be one of the people waiting patiently for any news from her even if its not about her music Laughing
 
skeedatl
Posted: Mar 12, 2012 10:26 am Reply with quote
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Joined: 01 Feb 2010 Posts: 4374 Location: Himeji
Those idol groups are built by corporations with their finger in the wind. They're like technical companies. One company comes out with a computer that sells well and all the others rush to copy it. There is no soul in the product.

But I'm glad to see ayaka back with her new album which is still in the top 10 on oricon's daily chart and 15th on the weekly despite being out over a month now, YUI has a new Blu-Ray concert video coming out in a few weeks. BONNIE PINK did the theme to Dirty Mama. Ayu has her 13th album coming out (Party Queen) in just a few weeks too along with a Blu-Ray live. Tomoko Kawase JUST released February & Heavenly less than 2 weeks ago. alan is still around but focused on China nowadays. She just had a blog entry yesterday with a pretty photo. She has a few entries over just the last few weeks after not writing for a while.

So the real singer-songwriters are still around and recently it seems I see them more frequently in the news.
 
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