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| Valca |
 Posted: Sep 23, 2005 4:02 am |
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甘えんぼ
Joined: 18 May 2005
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Location: Melbourne, Aus. =P
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The fifth one was iffy if you ask me. Iffy as in weird and ultimately not so good. 
Don;t you just hate ppl who spoil. Grr.. X____x |
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| tommykabby |
| Posted: Oct 22, 2005 9:30 am |
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大好きだよ。
Joined: 17 Oct 2005
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Location: canada
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Valca wrote: The fifth one was iffy if you ask me. Iffy as in weird and ultimately not so good.
Don;t you just hate ppl who spoil. Grr.. X____x
yea i do.... though i tend to sometimes....i try not to i have read it and it was ok....but i didnt really like the lst onme it was too boiring almost |
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| Deeply |
| Posted: Nov 02, 2005 8:18 am |
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桃ノ花ビラ
Joined: 24 Sep 2005
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yeaah i like the tome 6!!
so sad in the end.... 
I'm now thinking of some evil revenge too |
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| Rinoa |
| Posted: Nov 04, 2005 7:33 pm |
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クムリウタ
Joined: 14 Apr 2005
Posts: 1994
Location: Europe
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| I think J.K Rowlings is losing her touch. I didn't like the ending. It was simply like the previous book full of angst and death and I wonder how this book is actually for kids. I really do not like the direction she's leading her books. Too much depression in them. |
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| FFX~Valefor |
| Posted: Nov 06, 2005 5:55 am |
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Happy Days
Joined: 29 Aug 2005
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Location: greece-athens
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i greece it is released in about 8 days
i am looking forward reading it,i will pre-order it at the bookstore
pity that the books are approaching the end |
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| -Kyo- |
| Posted: Nov 06, 2005 9:45 am |
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桃ノ花ビラ
Joined: 06 Nov 2005
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Rinoa wrote: I think J.K Rowlings is losing her touch. I didn't like the ending. It was simply like the previous book full of angst and death and I wonder how this book is actually for kids. I really do not like the direction she's leading her books. Too much depression in them.
O_O; Yes, that's my opinion too! I hate the end! Not the content but ... I think it was too short. Much too short ... when I read the last chapter I thought she just want to finish the book as fast as she could XD that's sad v_v;and I felt there's no emotion in the last chapter. I was very disappointed ^^; |
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| Rinoa |
| Posted: Nov 06, 2005 12:21 pm |
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クムリウタ
Joined: 14 Apr 2005
Posts: 1994
Location: Europe
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Yeah I hate the ending too. It was like.. too shocking? Like really unexpected that after she had gone through all those books trying to show us that even though Snape is annoying, he is after all a good person, that it ends that way. It is indeed sort of pointless? It was rather disappointing. I can't really figure out the meaning of this book. Guess we shall see it in the next book. She also seemed to leave us guessing a lot and wanting to read the next book  |
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| -Kyo- |
| Posted: Nov 06, 2005 12:53 pm |
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桃ノ花ビラ
Joined: 06 Nov 2005
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Hn~~ I don't think it was shocking but o_o; kinda .. boring XDD;
I hated it that she presents Snape in that way T_T; I don't know what to think of him
but I don't like the way she judged him >_>; But I agree with you that the end was pointless ... I couldn't believe that it was the end because as you said it was pointless o_o;
disapponting I think <_< |
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| HilaryDuffFanboy |
| Posted: Nov 06, 2005 10:26 pm |
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CHU-LIP
Joined: 10 Oct 2005
Posts: 1748
Location: Melbourne, Australia
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*****************************************
MAJOR SPOILER ALERT. READ AT OWN RISK
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You know, there are rumors going around that, Snape is actually good and Dumbledore isn't dead.
When Snape supposedly kills Dumbledore with Avada Kedavra, you wil notice J.K. Rowling writes, 'Dumbledore was momentarily suspended in the air...' or something like that, the theory is that even though Snape said 'avada kedavra', in his MIND, he must have thought' wingardien leviorsa' or however you spell it.
in writing, there's this 'hassta/have to' rule
if you mention something at the start and raise no concern about it at that point, it is a given that it will become pivotal and important later on.
if thats too hard to understand, i'll try think of an example. say...
a person walks into a room and sees a gun on the table... the writer makes note of the gun and lets the audience aware of the gun.... if the person that walks into the room is to die or get hurt later on in the book, it must be done by the gun mentioned earlier in the story.... all good storytellers are aware of this rule
that is to say, earlier, we learnt that the 6th grade students were learning to do spells without saying them, and that is what snape has done. however, this isn't the only instance when the hassta rule appears.
right at the very beginning of the 6th, we learn that about a potion called 'the draught of living death'. guess what this does? it makes people look like they are dead when they are actually alive, and hey hey, its very possible that Dumbledore took the draught of living death!
one might then also argue, that, if snape is still good, then wouldnt voldemort, a powerful magician know of this? well, again, i can relate this back to the hassta rule. remember the 5th book with occlumency lessons between Snape and Harry? Dumbledore said that Snape is a very powerful occlumens, if that is true, voldemort could not find out that he was on dumbledores side.
also, when Snape is running away at the end, Harry calles Snape a coward. How does Snape respond? He gets very angry and tells Harry that he is NOT A COWARD. why? the reason is because he summoned up all his courage to go along with Dumbledore's daring and dangerous plans. Remember when Hagrid told Harry and friends that Snape and Dumbledore were having a heated discussion in the forest? Well, they were probably plotting the whole scheme, and they were arguing because Snape did not want to go along with it.
Another instance of the hassta rule, the one condition that Harry had to abide by to go and find horcruxes with Dumbledore was that 'you must do everything i tell you, even if i tell you to kill me, you must do so.' Harry agreed, but wasnt very happy to do so. Maybe thats why Snape got angry in the forest when Dumbledore requested that of him. And again, when Snape supposedly 'kills' Dumbledore, that shows that Snape is very faithful to Dumbledore.
Also, when a headmaster dies, the headmasters portrait will always appear in the headmasters office. Now, Dumbledore's portrait DOES appear in the office, BUT, why isn't he moving or talking or sleeping or active like the other headmasters? Well, maybe, he isn't dead!
One might then also ask, of Snape is really good, why did he go ahead with 'The Unbreakable Bond'[i forgot the name sorry] with Draco's mother? Well, the reason is, he is willing to go to all extents to make sure all the Death Eaters think he is on their side.
another hassta example i just remembered. When they cremate Dumbledore, you will notice that they say something like 'the coffin went up in flames' or something like that. well, remember when Dumbledore set Tom Riddle's wardrobe on fire to prove that he is a magician? Dumbledore shows that you can set things on fire without actually burning it, and that is what happens at his funeral.
Well, thats all that i can think of, I never believed that Dumbledore is dead, one, i cant imagine the last book without him, and two, there is just so much evidence suggesting that he isnt dead, as i have mentioned above, and more. i also think snape is till good, again, for the amount of evidence there is...
i know that the ending of the 6th book shocked many others, but there is more to it than meets the eye. i really beleive it.
ALSO, [i just thought of this], J.K. Rowling said this during an interview, when she wrote the 5th book, after she wrote that Sirius died at the Ministry of Magic, she went into the kitchen and said to her Husband 'Get me a cup of tea please" or something like that, because she was emotionally distressed that a good character had died. Yet, this time round, she didn't have to do so when she effectively killed Dumbledore. [ok thats stupid evidence, but hey, theres SO MUCH evidence that he is alive!]
i personally thought the 6th book was crap at the start.... that's to say there was so much stuff going on about romance and love and that took up so much space... and it was unneccessary, seriously. and then there was all this stuff about 'rude finger gestures' and 'swear words' which made this book more and more ordinary. so yeh, i wasn't too happy about all that crap.... but i think the ending was great, even thougn the last chapter was rushed.... or it seemed so... but this is definitely the most revealing book ever.....
i also think its interesting to note that its the first time that Lord Voldemort has not appeared in the book! [little Tom Riddle doesnt count]
has it been agreed upon here that R.A.B. is Regulus Black? And that the horcrux that Harry and Dumbledore are searching for is in THE HOUSE THAT HARRY OWNS NOW....
i think it was in one of the earlier books, they find a locket at 12 Grimmauld place, but they could not open it.... THAT is the horcrux Harry and Dumbledore were searching for! And it makes sense, that it is in the Black family's house since R.A.B. is Regulus Black.
anyhow, my favourite book is still Book 5.... the HP series really matured in Book 5... a very enjoyable read.
edit: damn i just noticed this post is almost 1100 words.... if only i could write that much tomorow for english exam... 4 essays 0_0. wish me luck! |
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| moomoo |
| Posted: Nov 06, 2005 10:42 pm |
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さくらんぼ
Joined: 06 Nov 2005
Posts: 31
Location: canada
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| Ahh.. i haven't even finished reading the order of phoenix yet.. x__x will be a long time before i get to read this new one.. ^^" |
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| Rinoa |
| Posted: Nov 07, 2005 7:43 am |
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クムリウタ
Joined: 14 Apr 2005
Posts: 1994
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| Interesting theories. I honestly do hope you are right since Dumbledore is one of my favourite characters ever. |
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| -Kyo- |
| Posted: Nov 07, 2005 10:56 am |
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桃ノ花ビラ
Joined: 06 Nov 2005
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**SPOILER ALERT**
Wow ! What a shocking theorie !!! O_O *never heard that before*
But I also hope you are right ^_^ I'm waiting for a statement of JKR what she says to this theorie XDD *laughs*
but (yeah, there's always a "but" XDD) on the other hand I hope Dumbledore's dead (sounds cruel I know o_o;) I don't like characters who are suddenly alive again ^^; because that makes me feel that everyone can do this, it's .... strange because I think it's a taboo to do this because (yes I think about it XDD) then children think that everyone who's dead can do this. And ... I think this makes the death to a sort of illusion and normality. JKR always wants to be near the reality ...
(my choice of words is so cruel XD don't know how to explain better ^^
nya~ anyway XDD I think that R.A.B is Regulus o_o; *hopes it*
*wishes you luck for your exam* |3~ |
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| HilaryDuffFanboy |
| Posted: Nov 08, 2005 2:12 am |
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CHU-LIP
Joined: 10 Oct 2005
Posts: 1748
Location: Melbourne, Australia
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hm... i dont think JKR will even say anything about the 7th book xD
as for how you don't like dead people coming alive again, well, i don't like that either.. but the argument is... what if dumbledore never died?
and thanks for your wishes... i came back today from them.... one word: orz |
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| -Kyo- |
| Posted: Nov 08, 2005 1:35 pm |
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桃ノ花ビラ
Joined: 06 Nov 2005
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no, I don't think that either (but I wish that she would XDD)
yes, that's an argument, but I wouldn't like that either because o_o;
don't know how to express ^^; everybody thinks he's dead and that's enough
for me ^^;; |
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| HilaryDuffFanboy |
| Posted: Nov 09, 2005 1:59 am |
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CHU-LIP
Joined: 10 Oct 2005
Posts: 1748
Location: Melbourne, Australia
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i sorta understand... sorta... xD
but I really do wish these theories are true... not only will it make the 7th book better in my opinion, but it really testifies JK Rowling's abilities as a storyteller. |
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