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weeblnbob
Posted: Jun 03, 2007 6:35 pm Reply with quote
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Joined: 03 Jun 2007 Posts: 1
i have a question that winxp's own help doesn't seem to answer for me. i've got the language pack installed, the language toolbar is active and everything works perfectly fine.

EXCEPT...

my keyboard is the US type, so i don't have a key to press if i want to switch input modes (from Hiragana to Direct and back to Hiragana). i recall that Japanese keyboards have these additional keys. so, is there a way for me to set up shortcuts on my US-type keyboard to do that, or should i try to get my hands on a Japanese version of keyboard and use that?

i know that i can just use the mouse to pull down the menu and select what i want, but i'd REALLY prefer a quick press of a keyboard button to do that. or at the very least set up a certain key to toggle between Hiragana and Direct.
 
del
Posted: Jun 27, 2007 4:54 am Reply with quote
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Joined: 09 Jun 2006 Posts: 211 Location: Wellington, New Zealand
weeblnbob wrote:
i have a question that winxp's own help doesn't seem to answer for me. i've got the language pack installed, the language toolbar is active and everything works perfectly fine.

EXCEPT...

my keyboard is the US type, so i don't have a key to press if i want to switch input modes (from Hiragana to Direct and back to Hiragana). i recall that Japanese keyboards have these additional keys. so, is there a way for me to set up shortcuts on my US-type keyboard to do that, or should i try to get my hands on a Japanese version of keyboard and use that?

i know that i can just use the mouse to pull down the menu and select what i want, but i'd REALLY prefer a quick press of a keyboard button to do that. or at the very least set up a certain key to toggle between Hiragana and Direct.


Text Services and Input Language > Settings > Key Settings

I have mine set alt+shift to get my language bar to Japanese, then alt+tab to switch between direct and hiragana
 
parasol
Posted: Jun 29, 2007 1:43 pm Reply with quote
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Joined: 31 May 2007 Posts: 130
Anyone know how to type in furigana?

I use mac os x, and I can do everything else...but haven't figured out furigana yet >.>
 
Tatsuka Ito
Posted: Jun 30, 2007 12:32 am Reply with quote
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Joined: 28 Nov 2006 Posts: 918 Location: Surrey,Canada
Well, if you want to type with furigana on the web, it impossible unless you have an OS, for everything else i think you have to Purchase NJStar or something.
 
mangomalte
Posted: Jun 30, 2007 5:45 am Reply with quote
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Joined: 10 Oct 2006 Posts: 3587 Location: Sweden
anyone knows how to write these round circles which implies that you can put anything you want in its place? when i write まる and hit space i just get a small circle ○.

edit: lol. took me half a minute to figure it out. Tongue i wrote おお instead and this came up: O. Smile
 
Stormchild
Posted: Jul 02, 2007 3:55 pm Reply with quote
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Joined: 20 Jul 2005 Posts: 271 Location: Vancouver, Canada
parasol wrote:
Anyone know how to type in furigana?

I use mac os x, and I can do everything else...but haven't figured out furigana yet >.>


This is a bit of a weird question, to be honest. Furigana is just hiragana placed next to kanji, so you really can't "type in furigana" -- you're still typing in hiragana. A typesetter (a person who does text layout) places the hiragana next to the appropriate kanji; as far as I know, it's not some sort of automatic thing. I have never heard of a "furigana" input mode; it's my guess that there's no such thing.

The point here is that the different input modes (hiragana, katakana, and kanji transliteration from either of those) are each related to a character set, whereas "furigana" is a type of layout, not a different type of characters.
 
wbxreilly
Posted: Jul 04, 2010 9:34 pm Reply with quote
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Joined: 04 Jul 2010 Posts: 1
I agree with Stormchild that there is no special/separate alphabet or syllabary for *furigana* but there IS such a thing as typing in furigana. In newspapers, magazines, novels as well as subtitles on movies, the hiragana pronunciation of the kanji character is not placed (next to) the character like you stated, but above the character in a much smaller font, usually about 1/4 - 1/2 the size of the original font. You can see examples of this all over Japan on signs, maps, you name it. I have never once seen the pronunciation placed to the side (meaning after the character) of a character. I think that would be confusing and easily mistaken for a new word if it were done that way. I too am searching for a method to input furigana and will post back as soon as I know...
good luck!
 
flintandtas
Posted: Jul 04, 2010 10:03 pm Reply with quote
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Joined: 07 Jul 2009 Posts: 8451 Location: Sydney, Australia
It appears next to it if the kanji on the right hand side when the script is written vertically, I got no idea how you can get it to automatically add the furigana in for you though, this is usually something you would have to format yourself I think Confused
 
chokokokoa
Posted: Jul 04, 2010 11:07 pm Reply with quote
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flintandtas wrote:
It appears next to it if the kanji on the right hand side when the script is written vertically
Yes, the furigana placed next to the kanji if the script written vertically.
And the furigana placed above the kanji if the script written horizontally.
Smile
 
skeedatl
Posted: Jul 05, 2010 2:29 pm Reply with quote
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parasol wrote:
Anyone know how to type in furigana?

I use mac os x, and I can do everything else...but haven't figured out furigana yet >.>


FOR OS X USERS


Furigana is not natively supported in OS X. But it is supported in some 3rd party apps. I use MS Office 2008 for Ruby. For Word 2008, you don't have to change to the JPN GUI for OS X or anything but you do need to use the Microsoft Language Register under additional tools in the MS Office folder to change the proofing tools to Japanese. Note that this doesn't change the menu items to Japanese or anything, it just adds additional proofing tool choices to the Format menu in MS Office applications.

Then you can type something in hiragana and when you hit space it switches to Kanji as normal. But then you can highlight any Kanji you want and change it to ruby by clicking format on the menu bar, then phonetic guide.



From the PG you can make your settings including spacing, centering, etc. It is time consuming at first but it gets faster as you get used to doing it. So while time consuming, it is possible. The nice thing about Word 2008's PG is it will automatically have the hiragana in the the PG form if originally typed that way, but you could change it to say, romaji, which I have done a few times.

Even though it does work for documents, as user Tatsuka Ito pointed out, you can't then just paste the Furi-G into say a web browser form for posting. While a lot of forums support HTML tags, they don't support the <ruby> tag
 
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