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| enlightened0ne |
 Posted: Jan 02, 2006 4:37 am |
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大好きだよ。
Joined: 13 Jun 2005
Posts: 231
Location: Australia
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| kawaii_milki |
| Posted: Jan 16, 2006 2:49 am |
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桃ノ花ビラ
Joined: 30 Nov 2005
Posts: 4
Location: ~*Lost*~
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is "-kun" restricted to boys' names only? Or can you call girls by that too?
Also, does 'sugoi' or 'sugei' mean fantastic? i learnt 'sugoi', but on those tv shows, they say 'sugei'... |
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| Aprilis. |
| Posted: Jan 16, 2006 2:56 pm |
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クムリウタ
Joined: 26 Aug 2005
Posts: 941
Location: Japan
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i think 'kun' is only used towards male. usually you hear 'kun' used amony students. it's kind of like 'san', but not as formal.
'sugoi' it's like wow, amazing, etc. i'm not really sure about 'sugei' thou |
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| khafre78 |
| Posted: Jan 16, 2006 5:57 pm |
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さくらんぼ
Joined: 10 Oct 2005
Posts: 34
Location: Misawa, Japan
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Kun can be used for anyone in the familiar.
Sugei is a more colloquial version of sugoi. You will learn that the Japanese have like 5 different ways of saying everything. I will learn about a very informal form, only to witness in practice that there is an even more informal version.
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Wakarimasen - I dont understand (normal polite)
Wakaranai - (informal)
Wakaranu - (more informal)
Wakaran - (least formal)
Wakanai - (also least formal)
These last two are used quite a lot in practice, but you will rarely find them in a book. |
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| kawaii_milki |
| Posted: Jan 17, 2006 3:07 am |
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桃ノ花ビラ
Joined: 30 Nov 2005
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Location: ~*Lost*~
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| Thank you!! I know a bit more Japanese now! ^-^ |
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| enlightened0ne |
| Posted: Jan 22, 2006 4:11 am |
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大好きだよ。
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Location: Australia
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khafre78 wrote: Wakarimasen - I dont understand (normal polite)
Wakaranai - (informal)
Wakaranu - (more informal)
Wakaran - (least formal)
Wakanai - (also least formal)
Wakaranu - This is an archaic form of the negative, often used to invoke the image of an old person reminiscing
Wakanai - this is often written "wakannai" because it is said with an extended "n," almost repeating the sound
The "suge-" (it should be suge-, not sugei) is the japanese "cool" way of saying things. The sound at the end of a word is changed to an "e" sound; eg wakannai-->wakanne
This is, I think, an imitation of oosaka-ben, the dialect used in oosaka by yakuza (originally). I am not sure how true this is, but that was what my friends told me when I asked them why they did it. Hope that this helped  |
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| mizzy |
| Posted: Feb 09, 2006 8:23 am |
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桃ノ花ビラ
Joined: 08 Feb 2006
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Hello everybody!
You hear alot Japnese people swear.. But not very often.
Is it "Baka" all the time..?
The word is very unpolite or funny word?
Are there more swear-words in Japanese?
I will like to know 
I think "Baka" is very funny word.. Litterally not think it's a bad word.
FUNNY WORD! LoL |
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| madgirlslovesong |
| Posted: Feb 09, 2006 10:41 am |
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ユメクイ
Joined: 23 Sep 2005
Posts: 1137
Location: USA
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Baka = Stupid/Fool/idiot. At least that's always been my understanding. I think it's a pretty strong insult in Japan, but I've heard it used way too many times in Anime or by fangirls who think it's funny.
As for swear words... well this is a family friendly forum, so you might try google.
I should really stop giving Japanese help. I don't know any.  |
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| khafre78 |
| Posted: Feb 09, 2006 6:28 pm |
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さくらんぼ
Joined: 10 Oct 2005
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Location: Misawa, Japan
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The Japanese dont have much in the way of swear words. They actually borrow some of ours instead. The worst words in Japanese refer to body parts. Historically they dont really like talking about the body at all. I think thats why they use the same word for foot and leg. They have their 'darn it' which is often translated into something stronger in english, but it isnt really that strong. That would be 'kuso'. And they have a few insults that arent really swear words that I will list:
あほ!!! Fool!
ぼけ !! Fool!
まぬけ! Fool!
くたばれ !! Drop dead!
どけ !! Get out of the way!
I think the way to be most offensive in Japanese is to speak in a way that is less polite than the situation would call for like using informal speach at a time when formal is called for. Older people think that the youth are destroying the language here and can understand them less and less. The youth like to shorten words, borrow words for english and change the way they are pronounced and used, and they like to use the most informal speach possible. Adults hate this. It isnt really swearing, but it has the same effect. And it isnt just a few words here and there, it is a good percentage of the words used.
Then there is referring to people not by their names. We use pronouns a lot in english. They dont. You wouldnt say 'he' or 'she' too often, especially if the person is in the room. Things like 'koitsu' and 'aitsu' which mean 'that guy' or 'that so and so' and considered rude unless used among friends. Or referring to someone as 'you.' And the more informal the worse. Saying 'anata' to someone is mostly ok, but sometimes not. But using 'omae' for example would be rude.
It isnt hard to believe that in a language which such rigidity and formality that the lack of such a thing would be rude. In school you only learn the super formal and the informal a little bit. I never studied in school but even studying books and the like, that is what you find. I found Japanese to be extremely boring because of this. It is a rather pretty language when spoken this way, but it isnt very fun. Personally, I like the way the youth speak. It makes the language more dynamic, more fun, and more interesting. But you always have to be careful who you use what with. Speaking the wrong way to someone even if you are a foreigner can make them not want to be around you. |
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| mizzy |
| Posted: Feb 10, 2006 3:52 am |
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桃ノ花ビラ
Joined: 08 Feb 2006
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Hello everybody.. Konnichi wa . konnichi wa
How do you spell "baka" in Japanese? |
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| michiezz |
| Posted: Mar 28, 2006 3:52 pm |
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さくらんぼ
Joined: 19 Nov 2005
Posts: 47
Location: RABURY world <3
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i have a qqq..
i donno the difference of how to pronounce
ou and o
for eg... shoujo and shojo?
ones virgin.. the other is girl... right?
=o=
i sed it once to my grandmother.. and
she thot i sed virgin  and she kinda got mad O_O
pls help on this xD
thankuuu |
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| khafre78 |
| Posted: Mar 28, 2006 6:28 pm |
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さくらんぼ
Joined: 10 Oct 2005
Posts: 34
Location: Misawa, Japan
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The 'u' makes the 'o' sound longer. All of the vowel sounds can be held longer in japanese. Whereas this doesnt exist in English. And most of the time like your example, there are two different words for the short and long sound.
short long
a aa
e ei
i ii
o ou
u uu
Sometimes when these long sounds are romanized, instead of having to vowels together, there is a line over the vowel. When katakana is used, instead of writing the character for the second vowel as is done in hiragana, '--' is drawn instead to indicate an enlongating of the sound. Hope this helps. |
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| LinLin-Sama |
| Posted: Mar 29, 2006 3:54 am |
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フレンジャー
Joined: 24 Mar 2006
Posts: 879
Location: Somwhere in Germany
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| well now that i see that you've put up a lot of Japanese expressions and vocabulary here then i'd rather stay here that Post a new Forum . I don't know how to speak japanese anyways |
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| michiezz |
| Posted: Apr 07, 2006 12:10 am |
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さくらんぼ
Joined: 19 Nov 2005
Posts: 47
Location: RABURY world <3
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thanks khafre78
for the help 
DOMO ARIGATOU! |
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| wiccanvixen16 |
| Posted: Apr 19, 2006 1:57 pm |
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さくらんぼ
Joined: 28 Mar 2006
Posts: 30
Location: USA
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| Wow I just discovered this thread. Very cool thanks so much for doing this. I'm planning on getting the Rosetta Stone and learning Japapnese from there but while I'm waiting I can check this out. You're really nice! |
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