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| hiro |
 Posted: Nov 27, 2007 6:46 pm |
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ネコに風船
Joined: 10 Oct 2007
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@Sonny:
wow that's really cool.
i'm chinese, and i have a friend who's Australian.
he's a really good singer (choir) and swimmer (like an amphibious tank but a friendly one  ) |
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| octocoffee |
| Posted: Nov 27, 2007 11:33 pm |
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ポケット
Joined: 24 Jun 2007
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Location: USA
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I'm from the US. Woo. I guess.  However, I speak Vietnamese almost fluently (I can't write or read it though  ), and I'm learning Spanish and Japanese. Yay! |
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| hiro |
| Posted: Nov 27, 2007 11:37 pm |
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ネコに風船
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oh yeah, i forgot to explicitly mention that i'm from the US
i can speak Chinese fluently, can read alright, and can barely write.
i have also been learning Spanish in school and am slowly picking up Japanese from random sources, such as Ai's lyrics!  |
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| Tdclarke |
| Posted: Nov 28, 2007 4:42 am |
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金魚花火
Joined: 15 Sep 2007
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Location: United Kingdom
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How do people learn to speak a language but not know how to read/write it?  Is this like in school where they give you verbal exercises but never teach you anything else?
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| sljinu |
| Posted: Nov 28, 2007 5:14 am |
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ユメクイ
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| Hiro probably picked up Chinese by speaking it at home. But because he lives in the US, he probably never got a chance to learn much Chinese. Also, even if he could, he probably believes that his Chinese literacy skills are average to poor (hence his statement that his reading is alright and writing was bad...sorry, no offence intended Hiro!!). A lot of my friends are the same. They can't read or write much Chinese (they say they can't anyway) but they can speak perfectly fine. |
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| Tdclarke |
| Posted: Nov 28, 2007 5:43 am |
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金魚花火
Joined: 15 Sep 2007
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Location: United Kingdom
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^Cool  OK, I just wondered, as I thought when most people learnt a new language, reading and writing automatically came into the process
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| Sonny |
| Posted: Nov 28, 2007 5:44 am |
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Happy Days
Joined: 13 Nov 2007
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Location: Melbourne, Australia
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| I can speak Chinese fine, but I can't read or write! Picked up speaking at home, but never practiced my reading or writing skills! So now I use english whenever I can. |
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| Meitantei L desu |
| Posted: Nov 28, 2007 7:22 am |
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大好きだよ。
Joined: 18 Sep 2007
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Location: Tokyo
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I am a Chinese from Malaysia and i am 17 this year and one of those unfortunate people that will be selected for NS  |
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| Sonny |
| Posted: Nov 28, 2007 7:23 am |
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Happy Days
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| Meitantei L desu, whats NS? |
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| Tdclarke |
| Posted: Nov 28, 2007 7:25 am |
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金魚花火
Joined: 15 Sep 2007
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Location: United Kingdom
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I would image National Service....Poor you
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| Sonny |
| Posted: Nov 28, 2007 2:38 pm |
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Happy Days
Joined: 13 Nov 2007
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Location: Melbourne, Australia
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| Oh, that must be difficult... |
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| hiro |
| Posted: Nov 28, 2007 6:00 pm |
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ネコに風船
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sljinu wrote: Hiro probably picked up Chinese by speaking it at home. But because he lives in the US, he probably never got a chance to learn much Chinese. Also, even if he could, he probably believes that his Chinese literacy skills are average to poor (hence his statement that his reading is alright and writing was bad...sorry, no offence intended Hiro!!). A lot of my friends are the same. They can't read or write much Chinese (they say they can't anyway) but they can speak perfectly fine. exactly!  well stated.
i can read better than almost all my chinese friends, but i am still unable to read much from chinese newspapers because they are all in traditional chinese. *fail*
actually, half of my chinese friends can't even speak chinese very well, because at home, their parents speak half chinese, half english to them, but they speak english back.
i've tried to maintain/improve my chinese by saying as much as i can in chinese at home and to my chinese friends.
btw, one of my non-chinese, non-asian friends is majoring in chinese in college!
i'd say that is very cool indeed!
Meitantei L desu, NS sounds tough. Best regards to you. *salute* |
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| sljinu |
| Posted: Nov 30, 2007 9:00 am |
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ユメクイ
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Hehe our new prime minister, Kevin Rudd majored in Chinese in university as well as something to do with Asian studies or history. As a result, he can speak fluent Mandarin. No wonder he won the latest Federal Election (he gathered the Chinese supporters )
@TdClarke: Also, it's hard to write Chinese characters. Recognition is one part, and it's the easier part of learning the literacy skills of the language. I'm trying to study kanji atm by myself...I can recognize and read far more than I can write...the stroke order is much more complicated, and memorising it is also hard...studying the Chinese characters is much harder than studying english |
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| Tdclarke |
| Posted: Nov 30, 2007 12:50 pm |
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金魚花火
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Location: United Kingdom
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^Yeah, I began learning Kana, but then...got sidetracked, and have not learnt any more for probably over a month now
I had this site, where it was really helpful, and had gif animations of the stroke order of the characters. Personally, I refrained from learning the shape of the characters before knowing the stroke order, as then bad habits can be picked up from writing them in "your style" and then finding it difficult to write them in the proper order.
I shall have to pick it up again, as I would like to visit Japan I barely have Kana learnt, with the stroke orders OK< but I find it difficult to remember characters, and my plan was to begin to "read" Japanese texts just to make my identifying of the characters quicker, although not actually understanding what the string of characters meant, it would certainly help with memorising I feel.
Kanji characters obviously look much harder, with far more complex features, and I don't actually know any at the moment, other than 大塚愛 of course 
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| Meitantei L desu |
| Posted: Dec 01, 2007 6:59 am |
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大好きだよ。
Joined: 18 Sep 2007
Posts: 232
Location: Tokyo
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Sonny wrote: Meitantei L desu, whats NS?
Yup, NS means national service. Sigh...... |
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