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How does LOVE PiECE Tour 2008 compare to previous concerts?
| Best concert by Ai-chin so far! |
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| HilaryDuffFanboy |
Posted: Aug 02, 2008 4:23 am |
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PEACH

Joined: 10 Oct 2005
Posts: 1966
Location: Melbourne, Australia
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When I first saw the pictures and setlist of LOVE PiECE, I have to say I was VERY surprised.
The costumes are really different, really hippy-like, and have an odd but cute charm around it, well I guess simply because Ai is wearing it~, but it really is a BIG change compared to her other more casual tour outfits. Ai am BEST tour wasn't as casual, it had some really nice costumey-type clothes but it wasn't different like LOVE PiECE. And the wigs this time round are really funny as well!
In regards to the setlist, well, she does like what, 3-4 songs that aren't from the LOVE PiECE era. I think Ai has realised that a lot of her fans share the same sentiment that she does the same songs every tour/concert. And by that I mean songs like
Sakuranbo
Momo no Hanabira
Amaenbo
Happy Days
Kingyo Hanabi
Daisuki da yo.
Kuroge Wagyuu Joshio Tanyaki 680 yen
Pon Pon
SMILY
Biidama
Planetarium
Neko ni Fuusen
They are great songs but she really needs to change it up, and she finally answered our calls!
I'll add more to this when I watch it tonight. ^^ |
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| pon pon |
Posted: Aug 02, 2008 7:29 am |
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クムリウタ

Joined: 16 Jul 2006
Posts: 979
Location: Melbourne, Australia
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i would rate it about the same as the Ai am BEST Tour. mostly because of the new songs. as for changing it up... it is the LOVE PiECE Tour after all, so no surprise that she does the entire album, which itself guarantees freshness. in fact, you could really call this the LOVE PiECE/16th Single Tour, as she does all of that as well. Rocket Sneaker was a late addition to the setlist when it was released during the tour.
the only "new" song not from the LOVE PiECE+ era is tears. and i suppose Kimi ni Kaeru, which, strictly speaking, is from that era but doesnt appear on the LOVE PiECE album.
of the pre-LOVE PiECE+ era stuff, the arrangement of tears reminded me of Friends live, with the violin accompaniment. it was good. it worked. but it wasnt a new idea. likewise for the acoustic guitar version of Planetarium, which has already been done. nothing fresh and bold here, like the jazzy versions of Biidama and Kuroge...
but the new stuff was enough. it carried the concert. my usual gripe remains. the day she throws away the pre-recorded backing and gets some backing vocalists on stage, like Ayu, BoA and many others, is the day she lifts her concerts to an even higher level.
i didnt miss the horns section. it was time for a change. i see the new bassist can play the double-bass as well, so there further promise there...
i didnt miss Akinori. not one little bit.  |
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| HilaryDuffFanboy |
Posted: Aug 02, 2008 7:48 am |
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PEACH

Joined: 10 Oct 2005
Posts: 1966
Location: Melbourne, Australia
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How is tears not from LOVE PiECE era? It was a B side of Yumekui which was a single from LOVE PiECE.
I still do think its a change the setlist is so fresh. If you look at all her setlists before this tour, they seriously always had her first 10 singles in there all the time.
I think I rate this concert about the same as Ai am BEST Tour as well. It's a great concert, both were. But LOVE PiECE had some low points in my opinion.
My favourite segment was the first one, Mirai Taxi is awesome live, Hanikami Jane was engaging even though I can't stand the studio version. Mackerel's was fantastic! I love how they use that different 'home camera' type thing with the grainy complexion and amateurness, reminds me of Beatles videos for some reason!
The next segment was my least favourite. Yumekui was great, but HEART/Hoshi no Tango/Momo no Hanabira was the lowest point of the concert! Rather boring in my opinion, and she chose to sing Momo no Hanabira in that try hard delicate soft voice and it turns out bad in my opinion :S
The ballad segment was great starting from tears, and as pon pon said, it reminds me of Friends from LOVE COOK tour~ Planetarium was not that great, acoustic guitars has been done before, and it doesn't suit the song that well. Kumuriuta was WONDERFUL, the strings really made the song even better than it already was, kimi ni kaeru ws surprisingly OK, i don't like the studio version of it... and Renai Shashin -Haru- with the orchestra was splendid, though the drums kicking in was a bit unncecessary.
Hyper segment was fun~ I couldn't sit through Frienger though, sorta sick of the song, and the home camera made a comeback with Katori Senkou and Pon pon, so I sat through those~ CHU-LIP has new choreography for the intro music, and it's soooooo cool, wiggling bums a lot LOL
Encore was OK~ Rocket Sneaker instrumentation was great, Sakuranbo at the end was fun, and the Pocket single was nice, gotta love those drag queens! |
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| pon pon |
Posted: Aug 02, 2008 8:00 am |
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クムリウタ

Joined: 16 Jul 2006
Posts: 979
Location: Melbourne, Australia
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HilaryDuffFanboy wrote: How is tears not from LOVE PiECE era? It was a B side of Yumekui which was a single from LOVE PiECE.
yeah, well you could say even Renai Shashin is from the LOVE PiECE era as well. i guess what i was referring to would be better defined as "a song that has been out for a while and has been avaliable to be performed at previous concert(s) but hadnt been so far"
another random observation: the most make-up on her face i can recall. |
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| HilaryDuffFanboy |
Posted: Aug 02, 2008 8:05 am |
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PEACH

Joined: 10 Oct 2005
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Location: Melbourne, Australia
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pon pon wrote: yeah, well you could say even Renai Shashin is from the LOVE PiECE era as well. i guess what i was referring to would be better defined as "a song that has been out for a while and has been avaliable to be performed at previous concert(s) but hadnt been so far"
another random observation: the most make-up on her face i can recall.
Ah yeah I get what you mean. Well yeah to me, strictly speaking, the song Frienger was the start of the LOVE PiECE era.
Why do you want backing vocallists so much? Personally I think playback is fine, I can't imagine Mirai Taxi any other way without compromising its awesomeness. And for some of her ballads, I think her guitarists do a good job because their low voices are just what is needed to complements Ai's high voice. |
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| pon pon |
Posted: Aug 02, 2008 8:44 am |
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クムリウタ

Joined: 16 Jul 2006
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Location: Melbourne, Australia
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HilaryDuffFanboy wrote: Why do you want backing vocallists so much? Personally I think playback is fine, I can't imagine Mirai Taxi any other way without compromising its awesomeness. And for some of her ballads, I think her guitarists do a good job because their low voices are just what is needed to complements Ai's high voice.
dont get me started! it comes down to the immediacy of the music (or lack of). i think when some artists are starting out they think they need to reproduce the CD sound on stage. and it may be that some sounds are only possible pre-recorded. the pre-recorded intro of Cherish live is an example. maybe all those sounds are difficult/impossible to reproduce on stage. but it doesnt need to be that way. it is perfectly valid to have a "live version" that is only similar to the original. but however you debate the merits or otherwise of pre-recorded music, there is little justification i can see for doing the same with vocals. your point about the guitarists doing the backing is a good one. with Frienger for example, they do an awesome job. but if the song is a ballad and it needs a female vocal for harmonies... i cannot help but think, was this additional vocal track added days/weeks later in the studio as part of the editing and mastering process? who can say? all you can say for sure is what you are hearing is not live. not fully. there is an implied lack of spontenaiety going on here. can you imagine a jazz or classical musician doing this? i cannot. and those same reasons are the ones that apply to any type of music.
see??? you got me started!!!  |
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| bobcharlie |
Posted: Aug 02, 2008 9:36 am |
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桃ノ花ビラ

Joined: 18 Jul 2008
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Location: Tokyo, Japan
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HilaryDuffFanboy wrote: The next segment was my least favourite. Yumekui was great, but HEART/Hoshi no Tango/Momo no Hanabira was the lowest point of the concert! Rather boring in my opinion, and she chose to sing Momo no Hanabira in that try hard delicate soft voice and it turns out bad in my opinion :S
I totally agree, I almost fell asleep at that part too. I understand that Ai is a dynamic artist in that she sings across varying emotions, and varying speeds, but perhaps Momo no Hanabira should have just been performed closer to the original or just replaced with something else. It just seemed to draaaag on just a bit too long...
Other than that, I really enjoyed this concert! Especially punky blonde-haired Ai Otsuka. Too cute. Sakuranbo was hilarious, for a song that she has sung about 340 million times, she finds a way to present it uniquely with the shinkansen-esque beats per minute. CHU-LIP was great, Mirai Taxi excellent - nice way to start. The costumes and visuals all very cool, I just wish I could have seen them in 3D! |
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| AiiR |
Posted: Aug 02, 2008 11:06 am |
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上塩タン焼680円

Joined: 04 Sep 2007
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Location: Canada & Taiwan
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HilaryDuffFanboy wrote:
The next segment was my least favourite. Yumekui was great, but HEART/Hoshi no Tango/Momo no Hanabira was the lowest point of the concert! Rather boring in my opinion, and she chose to sing Momo no Hanabira in that try hard delicate soft voice and it turns out bad in my opinion :S
...Planetarium was not that great, acoustic guitars has been done before, and it doesn't suit the song that well.
Have to disagree here...Hoshi no Tango actually became one of my favorite track from LOVE PiECE album and I think the live attracks me as well as the studio version. And yes, I don't like the acoustic guitars for Planetarium...the original is much better
pon pon wrote:
there is little justification i can see for doing the same with vocals. your point about the guitarists doing the backing is a good one. with Frienger for example, they do an awesome job. but if the song is a ballad and it needs a female vocal for harmonies... i cannot help but think, was this additional vocal track added days/weeks later in the studio as part of the editing and mastering process? who can say? all you can say for sure is what you are hearing is not live. not fully. there is an implied lack of spontenaiety going on here. can you imagine a jazz or classical musician doing this? i cannot. and those same reasons are the ones that apply to any type of music.
see??? ...
Yes agree! I really love the power of ai-chin's live and if it's live I want it to be fully live This's a good improvement on this tour concert.
bobcharlie wrote:
Sakuranbo was hilarious, for a song that she has sung about 340 million times, she finds a way to present it uniquely with the shinkansen-esque beats per minute. ....The costumes and visuals all very cool, I just wish I could have seen them in 3D!
Yeah I love how she presents Sakuranbo too. Every time there's something new when she sings that song And yes the costumes are cool..but I don't really like it...a bit too much for me...I still like a little bit more...simple?! I guess...and maybe a little bit more LOVE PiECE related?!
Anyways, I do wish I could see them in 3D too, and I wish the glasses had been included in the DVD package too, even if the DVD couldn't be made into 3D  |
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| Negaiido |
Posted: Aug 02, 2008 12:06 pm |
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上塩タン焼680円

Joined: 23 Oct 2007
Posts: 331
Location: The Netherlands
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pon pon wrote: HilaryDuffFanboy wrote: Why do you want backing vocallists so much? Personally I think playback is fine, I can't imagine Mirai Taxi any other way without compromising its awesomeness. And for some of her ballads, I think her guitarists do a good job because their low voices are just what is needed to complements Ai's high voice.
dont get me started!  it comes down to the immediacy of the music (or lack of). i think when some artists are starting out they think they need to reproduce the CD sound on stage. and it may be that some sounds are only possible pre-recorded. the pre-recorded intro of Cherish live is an example. maybe all those sounds are difficult/impossible to reproduce on stage. but it doesnt need to be that way. it is perfectly valid to have a "live version" that is only similar to the original. but however you debate the merits or otherwise of pre-recorded music, there is little justification i can see for doing the same with vocals. your point about the guitarists doing the backing is a good one. with Frienger for example, they do an awesome job. but if the song is a ballad and it needs a female vocal for harmonies... i cannot help but think, was this additional vocal track added days/weeks later in the studio as part of the editing and mastering process? who can say? all you can say for sure is what you are hearing is not live. not fully. there is an implied lack of spontenaiety going on here. can you imagine a jazz or classical musician doing this? i cannot. and those same reasons are the ones that apply to any type of music.
see??? you got me started!!! 
Well on one way I do agree but I don't really like backing up vocalists. They make the leading singer look bad sometimes
And Pon pon why didn't you miss Akinori? ^^ Where was he btw? |
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| HilaryDuffFanboy |
Posted: Aug 02, 2008 8:35 pm |
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PEACH

Joined: 10 Oct 2005
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Location: Melbourne, Australia
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| ^I think he was just busy with other things this time round... |
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| pon pon |
Posted: Aug 03, 2008 10:06 am |
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クムリウタ

Joined: 16 Jul 2006
Posts: 979
Location: Melbourne, Australia
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Negaiido wrote: And Pon pon why didn't you miss Akinori?
because he does the least musically on stage, but mostly because he tries to get the all the attention on himself. |
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| alleon86 |
Posted: Aug 03, 2008 11:35 am |
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桃ノ花ビラ

Joined: 19 Feb 2008
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Location: Africa
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i have two beefs with this concert
1. whats up the the roland digital piano. Roland makes quality intruement and it still sounded okay but digital piano will NEVER beat the 7 foot acoustic grand that ai's always used in her previous concert.
2. no one in ai's band can play the crazy piano part in rocket sneaker.
yah ..im a crazy piano guy. |
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| pon pon |
Posted: Aug 03, 2008 12:13 pm |
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クムリウタ

Joined: 16 Jul 2006
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Location: Melbourne, Australia
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^1. i didnt have a problem with the sound of it either. what struck me was it looked like a case of "product placement", with their name displayed so prominently. at least we didnt get "this concert brought to you by Roland" scrolling across the bottom of the screen. but i bet they sell a few as a result. you would have to say it is a smart move by Roland.
2. thats just the way it is. the alternative would have been to drag the session musician who played it on the single around with them on tour. hardly worth it for one song. |
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| alleon86 |
Posted: Aug 03, 2008 12:36 pm |
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桃ノ花ビラ

Joined: 19 Feb 2008
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pon pon wrote: ^1. i didnt have a problem with the sound of it either. what struck me was it looked like a case of "product placement", with their name displayed so prominently.  at least we didnt get "this concert brought to you by Roland" scrolling across the bottom of the screen.  but i bet they sell a few as a result. you would have to say it is a smart move by Roland.
2. thats just the way it is. the alternative would have been to drag the session musician who played it on the single around with them on tour. hardly worth it for one song.
1. Yeah... that big roland sign strucked me too. Its freaking huge. I dont remember roland digtal have that huge sign on their intruement. Its obvious they do that on purpose. I dunno why they do that, roland is pretty big and got a good repuation already, they dont need to do that.
I watch the old acoustic piano performance in her previous concert. There is no question about it, the old concert with the real piano sounded way better. A much more real sound to it. If you're at the concert, it even more apparent. The common otaku fans wont notice this, but the real music fan like me will!
2. maybe its time to hire some better guys
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| hiro |
Posted: Aug 03, 2008 11:24 pm |
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ネコに風船

Joined: 10 Oct 2007
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mirai taxi was great!
i agree with HDFB that hanakimi jane was fun but only when live.
i didn't miss akinori either. he was kinda distracting.
but he can definitely play the crazy rocket sneaker piano part as he did in ai's live performances of that on music fair/fighter/station/japan, etc. |
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