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| Celsius005 |
 Posted: Jun 17, 2006 2:26 am |
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Planetarium
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If you have seen any J-horror movies before, then you probably know that they sometimes have endings that may leave you thinking. This topic is for discussing the theory or meaning behind these endings or concepts. It would be a good idea if everyone were to share their opinions - I'm curious anyway because I'm sure not everyone has the same one  I'll start the first movie! *(this topic will have spoilers)*
Infection (Kansen) 2004 Directed by Masayuki Ochiai based on the story by Ryoichi Kimizuka
Here's the main cast:
Moro Morooka -- Dr. Kishida
Masanobu Takashima -- Dr. Uozumi
Mari Hoshino -- Rookie nurse
Michiko Hada -- Dr. Nakazono
Tae Kimura -- Nurse
Yoko Maki -- Nurse
Kaho Minami -- Head nurse
Koichi Sato -- Dr. Akiba
In the ending it is revealed that the patient was never left at the hospital where Dr. Kishida worked. However the characters see this patient as a green, decomposed body that is believed to have infected everyone. We also know that the patient that was killed earlier in the movie was actually Dr. Akiba, whom everyone also sees during the movie. Dr. Kishida was the only survivor and the psychiatrist woman, Dr. Nakazono, accused him of killing everyone else. The next thing we see is Dr. Nakazono, who starts to see green - we can assume that she is now "infected." Dr. Kishida is assumed dead.
Questions / Theories: (these aren't necessarily correct, just what I think)
What made the characters see the color green? I think that it was their guilt that made them see this. They killed Dr. Akiba so they are "guilty." Dr. Kishida was the one who made the major mistake of naming the medicine incorrectly so he is the "pathogen host" who is killing everyone. He killed everyone unknowingly, just as he did to Dr. Akiba and that's when Dr. Nakazono found him. She killed him in self-defense and hid his body in the locker that we see in the ending. She started to see the color green because she was now "guilty" of killing him.
That's the only question I'll leave for now, but please feel free to discuss any other questions that you may have in mind about this movie  . I will switch the movie topic when necessary.
*Also does anyone remember what the psychiatrist woman said about the apple?  Something about the color of it...I think it might be relevent. Thanks! |
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| short+simple |
| Posted: Jun 17, 2006 10:58 pm |
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大好きだよ。
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Location: Melbourne
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haha..well i'm not a big fan of horror movies..it's not that i get nightmare's or anthing..it's just that i tend to freak myself out more than i need to. The only jap horror movie i saw was the ring..i saw the second one with naomi watts.. The ring 1 was SCARY..only becaue half way through the movie..our cousin rang and we were sitting right next to the phone on the desk....but imust admit that even in the second ring there were some bits i didn't watch...just too grusome for me..
altho i know thta this post is to do with 'concepts' and obviously i haven't written about any, I'd just like to finally leave on the note that i applaud the japs for doing such a great job when it comes to freaking their audience out of their mind. You guys really do have one heck of a scary imagination |
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| AYA6912 |
| Posted: Jun 17, 2006 11:04 pm |
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上塩タン焼680円
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| i saw this movie and many other asian horror movies on halloween night .hmmm there is actually a desease where people see red things as green and green things as red, the way they see colors is abit different, i dont know the name excatly i think the name in spanish is DARTONISMO according to my family, my aunts husband has it, and she has to help him pick the right clothes and stuff ,is not a fatal desease at least that i know of, i dont know why is in the movie but im just saying that it is a real desease, |
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| Celsius005 |
| Posted: Jun 18, 2006 2:22 am |
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Planetarium
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 Aah! Sorry guys I guess I'm the only one who thinks this much, huh? Well I know J-horror isn't supposed to be straight-forward, it does have deeper meaning especially if it was a novelization first. But this probably doesn't appeal to anyone because scary movies are supposed to look scary...
I've never heard of such a condition actually being real. It's an explanation from a logical standpoint, thanks for the info AYA6912.
Perhaps I just think too much on odd things, but doesn't it make you wonder sometimes? I mean it wasn't exactly obvious why they saw green and why they saw Dr. Akiba even though he was dead. It's fictional so I like to consider all possible explanations no matter how farfetched they seem. It's fun that way  ! Thanks everyone. |
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| marktobias |
| Posted: Jun 18, 2006 6:23 am |
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大好きだよ。
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I never really bother trying to figure out films like this. If I don't get it then I just don't even try to get it
Although I did read up about it on imdb and lots of people have different theories. One was to do with the name Akai have the word for "red" in it. The thing with green meaning guilt makes sense I think. Also the thing with the apple just meant that things aren't always what they seem if I remember correctly.
See I'm confused now because I'm trying to make sense of it
One film that really confused me was A Tale Of Two Sisters. I get it now but it only made sense on a second viewing.
Oh and it was great to see Yoko Maki after I'd seen her in Tokyo Friends. |
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| Celsius005 |
| Posted: Jun 18, 2006 12:39 pm |
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Planetarium
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marktobias wrote: Also the thing with the apple just meant that things aren't always what they seem if I remember correctly.
Yeah it was something like that, thanks! I've never heard of A Tale Of Two Sisters before, maybe I should see it sometime . |
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| AYA6912 |
| Posted: Jun 18, 2006 11:50 pm |
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上塩タン焼680円
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| a tale of two sisters is one of my favorite films ever, the movie and plot are really good, is really good, it was easy to undestand,at least i think so... the story is sad but very good, you should see it Celsius005 |
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| marktobias |
| Posted: Jun 19, 2006 7:55 am |
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大好きだよ。
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AYA6912 wrote: a tale of two sisters is one of my favorite films ever, the movie and plot are really good, is really good, it was easy to undestand,at least i think so... the story is sad but very good, you should see it Celsius005
I wouldn't say it's easy to understand, it sort of depends how you approach the film. If you try taking it all too literally then you have no chance (that's what I did) |
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| Celsius005 |
| Posted: Jun 19, 2006 9:24 am |
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| horizon180 |
| Posted: Jun 19, 2006 9:33 am |
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SMILY
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the horror movies with the scary kids are always the scariest. cue: ju-on (grudge), kurai mizu (dark water), ringu o (ring zero) ...
a tale of two sisters was cool. its not really horror and its not even japanese... but yes, it was very cool and the suspense was very tense.
i remember watching "ju-on" with a couple of my friends, with the lights turned off, and we started at like 11:30 at night... lol, by the time we finished watching, we were all so freaked out.
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| Celsius005 |
| Posted: Jun 19, 2006 9:43 am |
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Planetarium
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 I watched all of the movies you mentioned too! Those kids really are freaky like you said.
I remember watching Ju-On with my sister late at night and it was really funny. Not the movie itself, but my sister's reaction . I got freaked out when my sister would unexpectedly jump and scream in shock every 3 minutes. The movie was great.
EDIT:  I just watched A Tale of Two Sisters last night. It was a great movie, I was kind of confused though. I spent the rest of the night trying to figure it out and I think I got it. Thanks for telling me about this movie! |
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. Here's the current Wikipedia summary of the movie: