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| Mojo Pin |
 Posted: Jan 25, 2007 2:19 pm |
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金魚花火
Joined: 16 Nov 2006
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Location: New Zealand
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The more I look at it she was a ticking time bomb, the stuff she was going through especially the last 4 months. She really was an empty shell in the end. 
Dealing with a Manipulative record company packaging you as something you really don't feel comfortable with.
A scandal, where a doppelgänger of your self causes people believe you are a woman who was believed murdered. It would cause a lot of stress thats for sure.
A New Album & personal attacks on the internet, the automatic stress to make a new album for a record company in a declining industry within the nation. The constant harrassment playing on her mind.
The reason im so drawn too this, is cause this woman is very similar to myself personality wise, she is a very shy & reserved person like myself, we do find ourselves being used....but we can't help but feel it is our obligation, Its as we fell the weight of the world on our shoulders, most of the time people of this nature are very accomadating and understanding. However a diadvantage is found with this, as she was taken advantage of and left defenseless to the personal attacks laid on her. Too be rewarded with abuse or ignorance for trying soo hard to be something is very disenchanting. Then the shroud of Isolation finally comes over you & due to the lack of trust in people we struggle alone to get ourselves out, which unfortunately she couldn't.  |
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| babevi |
| Posted: Jan 25, 2007 4:16 pm |
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甘えんぼ
Joined: 16 Jan 2007
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Location: ATX-TP
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I understand why UNee is being so depressed, and I also understand how everyone should change their "free-ways" of saying certain criticism. Nevertheless, there's absolutely no understanding over suicide. Taking your own life doesn't solve anything, it doesn't release your stress either, it only brings sorrow and pain to the ones who don't criticize you and love you all the way through. I do remember UNee from a song or two, she was a good singer, and obviously from the pictures, she was beautiful too. Those so-called "Cyber Warriors" can do so much, but they're never be able to take your life, only you can do that.
I'm sorry if I sounded so harsh and everything over UNee, because indeed she was the victim of "Cyber Warriors," yet she will never be the victim of her own suicide; she was a murderer in that case. Simple saying, you want others to respect you, you have to respect yourself first. Taking your own life will never bring you pride. |
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| madgirlslovesong |
| Posted: Jan 25, 2007 6:31 pm |
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ユメクイ
Joined: 23 Sep 2005
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Location: USA
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Mojo Pin, I couldn't agree with you more. I saw a lot of myself in this girl as well. Watching her videos is almost eerie. Especially the ones with a darker feel to them. It's sad because she really did throw out cries for help. She even posted on her web site about how lost she felt. You really seem to be echoing my thoughts though, and with a much better vocabulary, I might add.
Babevi, I totally understand where you're coming from. Different people and even different cultures and religions have different views on suicide and that's fine. It's just.. really hard to understand. Unless you've been in that same dark hole, though... you don't really know what it's like to think and feel like that.
People who commit suicide don't usually do it because they have nothing better to do. They feel completely hopeless and beyond help. They've completely given up. They do it because at the time, it seems like the only option, the only solution to their problems. They think that everyone else will be better off without them around and that their presence on earth is pointless.
Is that true? No! But, to a severely depressed person it really does seem that way. Depression is so much deeper than thoughts and feelings. It's even so much more than chemicals and reactions from the brain. It's usually not something you can tackle all alone. It's not something you can just turn off or change. It takes a lot of therapy and in most cases, medication.
U;Nee (Not to mention millions of other people in the world!) was quite obviously suffering from serious depression. She just never got the quality of help she needed to get through it.
Note that when I say "you," a lot of the time I don't mean anything personal. It's just a generalization. |
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| babevi |
| Posted: Jan 27, 2007 12:41 am |
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甘えんぼ
Joined: 16 Jan 2007
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Location: ATX-TP
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@madgirlslovesong
I do know how depression is like though, I was under depression when I was about 15. I understand having the thought of hopeless-ness and self-destruction, but I managed, even without medication. I believe ending life isn't anyone's job to take except God. I understand, yet I don't think it's right, maybe this way is more understandable.
I'm glad we are having this conversation though, I haven't talked about this kind of stuff for a long time.  |
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| Tatsuka Ito |
| Posted: Jan 27, 2007 1:13 am |
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フレンジャー
Joined: 28 Nov 2006
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| Mojo Pin |
| Posted: Jan 27, 2007 1:24 pm |
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金魚花火
Joined: 16 Nov 2006
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Location: New Zealand
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babevi wrote: I'm sorry if I sounded so harsh and everything over U;Nee, because indeed she was the victim of "Cyber Warriors," yet she will never be the victim of her own suicide; she was a murderer in that case. Simple saying, you want others to respect you, you have to respect yourself first. Taking your own life will never bring you pride.
I do believe suicide is never the right solution like you said babevi, but though she may of been the one to tie her noose, certain other elements lead to her noose being tightend. To call her a murderer is untowards and dismissable in terms of the likely circumstances, as a murderer is, "someone who harbour's a dislike to which they slaughter another lifeform not to themselves".
Respect these days, is based on appearance not on understanding in this day and age, the valors of respect should come from understanding but we look at the external attributes of someone i.e (looks, behaviour & status). The looks & status leads to the biggest problem. With many warped views on others that lead to the wrong emotions of jealousy, envy & infatuation.
This in turn makes people be concious of themselves, as others are disgruntled by the fact some of your external features are better than their's by a commercial stand point. These scathing attacks were from those who were under the guise of one of the above bad emotions, they took it to her at a very vulnerable state, it plays with your mind constantly as it conflicts with other problems and confuses you playing with your mind making you think your worthless.
She died of certain groups unwillingness to acknowledge, who she was or what she wanted from her life & career. The ignorance placed upon her feelings, this shows a lot of people's lack of patience & the unwillingness to understand someone. 
This more or less says the blood is on the hands of numerous people who used & abused her for profit or out of envy, she should not shoulder all the blame. |
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| babevi |
| Posted: Jan 27, 2007 4:33 pm |
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甘えんぼ
Joined: 16 Jan 2007
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@Mojo Pin
I'm not making a statement saying she has to shoulder all the blame. I do know "Cyber Warriors" are the most to blame. But even the society and environment are so bad now, a lot of people, under even bigger stresses than hers, can manage, why can't she? I agreed it's too much for a young woman to bear, I agreed she has a big stress leading her to her depression, but I can never agree with suicide, no matter how big her stress is.
My grammar sounded so weird, hope what I'm saying is making sense, in grammar-manner.  |
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| yukino |
| Posted: Jan 29, 2007 3:51 am |
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上塩タン焼680円
Joined: 03 Dec 2005
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In Buddhism, when you commit suicide, the suffering doesn't end. You become a ghost and every day, at the same time, you "relive" your suicide and feel the same pain and anguish.
But suicide in any religion or any place is one of the darkest things in existence. It's a purely human concept. What other creature could be so emotional, so utterly rash and selfish as to take its own life? My dad says that people who commit suicide are pursued by ghosts. I guess the ghost in this case was a hideous amalgamation of these so-called "cyber warriors".
I'm almost spooked now, even as I bow my head to mourn for this beautiful lady. |
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| cnix |
| Posted: Jan 30, 2007 2:18 am |
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金魚花火
Joined: 29 Oct 2006
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lol thats a pretty deep perspective 
anyways, her album "Habit" released on the 26th. go buyz nao |
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